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24.09.2013 @ 18:51I posted quite a lot in the other topic about the timeline issues.
Personally I don't understand how CDPR could have made a slip up like this, spanning over 2 games.
Basically the problem lies in the fact that during the beginning of the first game the intro states that we are in the year 1270. (Should be 1273).
The 2nd game once again establishes we are in 1270 one month after the events of the first game.
In the dungeon Vernon Roche interrogates you, and at one point has a report about the Rivian pogrom.
He tells that it details events from 5 years ago, and then a flashback starts.
The flashback states that in the year 1268 the Rivian pogrom took place (Which actually fits the existing novels).
1268 + 5 simply does not equal 1270.
The Witcher 2 is very detailed with all of the dates in the flashbacks, and all of them seem to fit nicely if we would have been in the year 1273.
We are however in the year 1270 according to the official in game information.
It is a huge slip up in storytelling, but CDPR could simply fix it, by altering the dates in the intro movies. (Thats basically all that needs to be done.)
The dates on the website also need some attention, since they contradict the games even more.
28.06.2013 @ 08:48
vivaxardas said:In the world where it is true to say that 1271 is 6 years later than 1268, the meaning of numerals they use is different (in no possible world (in our language) 68+6=71, it is mathematically impossible). So in order for readers to be consistent as well, we shouldn't claim that we understand what it means (for example) "six days later" in TW world, because we do not understand what "six" means in that world.
You, guys, can believe anything you want, and be as inconsistent as you like, but for me either making all number discourse meaningless, or turning TW world into Alice in Wonderland, is not a way to go. I really hope in TW3 CDPR would choose a simple way and change 1271 into 1273(1274). ›››
Wow, for some reason I completely read over this post.
I agree 100% though.
One can not simply say that we perhaps numbers have a different meaning in the world of the witcher.
If numbers don't have any meaning we as readers/game players can understand, because even though the numbers match the ones we know in our world, they have an unestablished different meaning, then the information that is relayed to us as readers/game players, is unnecessary
as a whole.
CDPR just has been very sloppy with this, and its better for us fans to just admit that.
27.06.2013 @ 10:24
JonStryker said:That sounds a like a hugely extensive explanation to a problem that can be very simply answered. Time flows differently and magically five years are three (or the other way around)/>/>?
CDProjektRED isn't completely error prone. They did screw up with the dates. So what?
With the same redcon logic you could argue that there are probably several cities in the Northern kingdoms with the same names (Aedd Gynvael in Kaedwen AND in Kovir) or that Thanedd most likely vanished in the ocean due to plate tectonics. ›››
And some of these date errors are quite inexcusable if you ask me. 5 years simply do not equal 3 years. and in general the dates just don't seem to add up at all.
Timeloops are however part of the games and their story canon, and it can be one possible explanation for SOME of strangeness surrounding the timeline.
I can image that some of the fuzzy dates that Geralt mentions in his Witcher 2 flashbacks, are actually quite distorted by the fact that he is chasing a group of spectres that seem to be in 2 realities at the same time.
However, in general the timeline doesn't make sense, and the writers really could have done a much better job !
25.06.2013 @ 20:59Oh right, I remember now.
In the beginning in the prison, Vernon indeed says that his report detail some of the events that happened 5 years ago, which are the events of the Rivian pogrom.
1268 is the supposed year and the Witcher 2 is set in 1271.
3 years does not equal 5 years, so there are still some mix ups that can not be properly explained.
The game however does explain that time is relative, and that those who have been in contact with the wild hunt, perceive time differently, or not at all.
The effects of time also differ significantly from one person to the next if you regard people that have been into contact with the wild hunt.
Since the story has these sort of "quantum" elements, with the conjunction of spheres, and things like the wild hunt that seem to be in 2 different realities at the same time. It might just be so that some of these contradicting elements are actually part of the story, and that all of this will eventually be revealed in the future.
Now I come to think of it, the first witcher game had a sort of time loop/alternative reality thing as well.
Remember Alvin ?
The first game sort of suggested that Alvin was actually a younger version of Jaques de Aldersberg, and that Jaques de Aldersberg himself might have been an invader from another world, or other timeline.
Jaques was able to bend reality in many different ways, since he was a very powerful source.
I'm not saying all dates make sense. I am saying however that some of it might actually be intentional, and be part of the bigger story line that will be saga of Geralt of Rivia.
25.06.2013 @ 19:29Hello !
After a new play through of the Witcher 2 I can definitely say that the only thing that is contradictory here, is the Witcher 1 timeline as described on the website.
The rest of it, actually makes sense.
I've watched the flashbacks thoroughly, and everything is actually properly explained within the game.
The Witcher 1 is less specific and only mentions one date in the beginning.
So CDProjekt, all you have to do is change the timeline on the website, and use your own games as a reference. />
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