[Ubasti]

You've been playing a different Geralt than I am obviously. ;) My Geralt didn't think about family when he saved Alvin and decided to who he should give him. He was just thinking who would better survive the attack from Salamandra. ;) And since he had lost his mind, nothing she had seen of Shani to that moment made him think that Shani could do anything in a dangerous situation. And he also didn't want to put Shani in danger, I think my Geralt loved Shani, but more like a little sister. ;)

[fchopin]

I also did not like to be forced to choose between Shani and Triss, big mistake by the developers in my opinion. As for Touruviel it is a joke, there is no way my witcher would end up with her.

If they wanted Gerald to choose a woman then they should have given an option from all the women in the game so the player could choose which ever woman he or she liked.

[swordsandroses]

Shani and Triss represent the 2 most common types of women. One is all about love and caring, and other about having fun and power. In the end, it all comes down to that. As in real life, you chose if you wanna be with a woman who will make a good wife and mother, or someone who choses carrear. Simply put as I see it.

[fchopin]

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Shani and Triss represent the 2 most common types of women. One is all about love and caring, and other about having fun and power. In the end, it all comes down to that. As in real life, you chose if you wanna be with a woman who will make a good wife and mother, or someone who choses carrear. Simply put as I see it.

They may be the 2 most common types to you but it does not mean that is what other people like.

There should have been a third option in the game so none of the women would have been chosen … that would have been my selection.

It would have been great going to Trish and Shani and saying I will protect the kid or at least had the option to say to Shani that she would not be able to protect the kid.

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Shani and Triss represent the 2 most common types of women. One is all about love and caring, and other about having fun and power. In the end, it all comes down to that. As in real life, you chose if you wanna be with a woman who will make a good wife and mother, or someone who choses carrear. Simply put as I see it.

They may be the 2 most common types to you but it does not mean that is what other people like.

There should have been a third option in the game so none of the women would have been chosen … that would have been my selection.

It would have been great going to Trish and Shani and saying I will protect the kid or at least had the option to say to Shani that she would not be able to protect the kid.

I do not doubt the stereotypical comparison of Triss and Shani, but the third option of you as a loner would leave me with doubts.
Would it not be better to remain neutral between the two women 'after' bearing all the fruits of the relationship's? That would prove a Real Price of Neutrality, i would say.  :peace:

[wishwizard]

there is a 3rd option you all have not considered that geralt can not reproduce so whoever he chooses its not like he is going to be at a loss trying to find other women.

i sided with triss, shani annoyed me cause she was always like oh ill talk to you later, im busy bla bla bla. and then she goes off and tells me how much of a a-hole i am in the hospital
killing non humans when they storm into the hosptial , i was saying to myself let the elves kill the patients see how i told you before how honor bound and heroic your elves are now. but obvously i had to kill them and save her and she is like oh why cant they leave the hospital and a quick thanks for saving her. I am glad i did not side with shani she obvously is full of self arrogance.

As for triss, its not like you dont know she is playing you for her own idea's (sorceress lodge). So you might as well bang the hell out of her and then when the time is right make your move like you did to aved in the swamp tower.

so geralt shoud just get as much sex as he wants, and find a new babe with absolutley no conequences afterwards :P

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there is a 3rd option you all have not considered that geralt can not reproduce so whoever he chooses its not like he is going to be at a loss trying to find other women.

i sided with triss, shani annoyed me cause she was always like oh ill talk to you later, im busy bla bla bla. and then she goes off and tells me how much of a a-hole i am in the hospital
killing non humans when they storm into the hosptial , i was saying to myself let the elves kill the patients see how i told you before how honor bound and heroic your elves are now. but obvously i had to kill them and save her and she is like oh why cant they leave the hospital and a quick thanks for saving her. I am glad i did not side with shani she obvously is full of self arrogance.

As for triss, its not like you dont know she is playing you for her own idea's (sorceress lodge). So you might as well bang the hell out of her and then when the time is right make your move like you did to aved in the swamp tower.

so geralt shoud just get as much sex as he wants, and find a new babe with absolutley no conequences afterwards :P

I hate to be discouraging or a pessimistic, not at all, but this post seems a bit prejudicial and almost as if it was written at first glance. In all, I would call it amateurish, for the lack of a better word. You have not taken into account the memory lapse, allegiance of the parties as well as the political or even social implications involved in the characters relationships. In short, there are consequences, you know? Now I get that you would rather be a total sleeze when it comes to this point, but then again, who wouldn't? Your mistake was the smug remarks you battered in making your points.

Your siding choice is of no consequence as it is compulsory and indifferent to moral belief, which you also mentioned in a prejudiced tone. I hope you play the game more times as this seems to me to be your first so that you understand exactly what the consequence of your actions are and the effect they have on the surroundings. The game is built for 'More' than what you think...  :peace:

[wishwizard]

oh i know about what your talking about i was just saying that geralt could be a sleeze and not really care its only that the game forces him to these actions that makes him who he is.
I am sure berengar is the perfect example of a witcher who abuses his power anyway so please dont tell me about morals i just think if i were in his shoes id choose a rather pick someone else out of those two without being as colorful as the two characters are.

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oh i know about what your talking about

I don't think so. If you did, and I surely think you don't, the few posts I saw would depict research and knowledge gained from an experienced gamer multi-playing this game in pursuit of unlocking every opportunity. What you have shown is a lack of understanding thus far.

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i was just saying that geralt could be a sleeze and not really care its only that the game forces him to these actions that makes him who he is.

Geralt could be a sleeze, as I, and others too, so eloquently put it, but it's if the gamers' choice is for him to do so. Thus I come to your comment on deduction of choices and how the game "forces" actions upon him. This game has three outcomes based on your force choices: Squirrels, Order or Yourself (Neutrality). All else is but shadows and dust in front of you (I hope you understood the phrase) and you get to decide your involvement depending on your goals.

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I am sure berengar is the perfect example of a witcher who abuses his power anyway so please dont tell me about morals i just think if i were in his shoes id choose a rather pick someone else out of those two without being as colorful as the two characters are.

Berengar has not abused his power. He just blames his situation on others without taking responsibility... ,but this is all attributed to his choices and the impact thereof. Please understand that his shoes are quite big to fill as his surroundings are not so pleasant. Try think of it as the greater good and lesser evil.  :)

I hope my dissection of your post really Forces you to subside a bit and continue playing or replaying the game from every angle so to gain advantage over the forum by means of understanding... Simply put: Check the scene from all angles  :peace:

[wishwizard]

you have serious issues mate, i play how i like to play. Perhaps you do not see the reason on why i persue the path i take.

first off do not question me about multiplayer gaming, i have been doing gaming since i was 6 years old with dos games and hard drive still in fashion. My first multiplayer being Diablo, then starcraft ect ect.
I have also won various tournements online, including Myth II which unforntently my team got elminated last month by one of the favorites. i would highly recomend this game to you if you like to read a good story that is dark depcting on the same level as this game.

I am not shut off with ignorance, in fact i am going to buy the english version of the witcher book and start reading and "heard" people say the movie is garbage. You may look at things and interpret at a different way such as beringar. You assume he had hard choices to make, the fact he is a witcher and generally speaking has to abide by laws, which he attempts to kill geralt, braking another law shows he has abolutley no respect for order.

As for choosing other options i am playing currently the side of neutrality. I am affraid i am self admitting my ignorance towards non humans, just to think of joining them makes my blood boil. This game is about morals and choices like you say. However it doesnt mean i have to agree joining somthing i dont want to.

I mean look at triss, she is so self power hungry and doesnt really care about you and flicks you away at the end dissapointingly, And shani- do you really want to love someone who will end up as demonic as her grandmother? She was perhaps my most fearsome opponent in the witcher the grandmother, i mean she was the only one to phsicly kick me outside with no choice in fighting her. Not many opponents could have done that!

[DelightfulMcCoy]

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And shani- do you really want to love someone who will end up as demonic as her grandmother? She was perhaps my most fearsome opponent in the witcher the grandmother, i mean she was the only one to phsicly kick me outside with no choice in fighting her. Not many opponents could have done that!

Um, not to poop on your rant there, but where did you get the idea, Shani's landlord was her grandmother?? :o
And is that your sole argument against Shani?

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And shani- do you really want to love someone who will end up as demonic as her grandmother? She was perhaps my most fearsome opponent in the witcher the grandmother, i mean she was the only one to phsicly kick me outside with no choice in fighting her. Not many opponents could have done that!

Um, not to poop on your rant there, but where did you get the idea, Shani's landlord was her grandmother?? :o
And is that your sole argument against Shani?

thanks for correction, i thaught it was her grandmother obvously not. No i dont mind shani but shes not as sexy as triss, i think geralt has a thing for redheads :P

[kyogen]

Geralt definitely has a thing for redheads in this game.

I loved the in-game version of Triss. (I like her in the books, too, but that's sort of beside the point.) She's smart, funny, ironic, a little vulnerable/insecure but still tough when it counts (Alvin's description of Triss fighting off a group of armed kidnappers is great), and she has a life apart from being in love with Geralt. In fact, as others on this thread have already pointed out, she has a life that is very similar to Geralt's: her job defines her whole life, it's dangerous, she can't walk away from her commitments without serious consequences, her public and private lives don't mesh well, there are no easy moral choices for her etc. She is not an easy or simple character, but she's interesting. I also think that the prologue firmly establishes her as an ally in spite of the conflicting interests that emerge later. I just didn't find her as unreliable as some other players do. Personal interpretation, of course.

Shani comes across (to me--not to everyone, I know) as generally nice but a bit too passive despite her medical work and frustratingly possessive, snarky, and unhelpful if she's angry.

But...even though I greatly prefer Triss as a character, I think CDPR was brilliant to create a two-woman choice that Geralt has to make--at least as a practical solution for dealing with Alvin. I admit that I also enjoy watching Geralt squirm a bit when he realizes a little too late that Triss and Shani both take his "professional" decision personally. Schadenfreude. I'm glad it's not me, obviously.

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Geralt definitely has a thing for redheads in this game.

Wait a sec... Triss is a brunette is she not? The card shows the person in detail... please check.

As for your other comments... I find them rather well spoken.  :beer:

[Corylea]

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Geralt definitely has a thing for redheads in this game.

Wait a sec... Triss is a brunette is she not? The card shows the person in detail... please check.

The cards look very different from the women in the game; many people have said that the cards look as if they're all of the same woman.  Not on the card, but in the game, Triss is definitely a redhead.  And I sorta assumed it was CDPR that had a thing for redheads, since Yennifer has black hair. ;D

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The cards look very different from the women in the game; many people have said that the cards look as if they're all of the same woman.  Not on the card, but in the game, Triss is definitely a redhead.  And I sorta assumed it was CDPR that had a thing for redheads, since Yennifer has black hair. ;D

After a closer look at the cards... I notice the majority of ordinary characters are brunettes. Though, Triss and Shani definitely have a shade of red once I look at them in a different light... these WXGA screens of mine  :D

As for the game itself, the modeled structure of characters for Triss and the hookers both have similar texture which leads me to believe less effort was put into that category of the games graphics engine, or whatever term they called it. I tend to focus on the cards as that, I think, is what the people were meant to look like on real and not the modeled figures displayed during game play... of course, this is only my opinion. But, I suppose the game play illustrations are also fine.  :peace:

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I tend to focus on the cards as that, I think, is what the people were meant to look like on real and not the modeled figures displayed during game play... of course, this is only my opinion. But, I suppose the game play illustrations are also fine.  Peace!

Yeah, I went with the gameplay images, and when I first played the original version of the game on a friend's computer with medium graphics and a dodgy monitor, Triss, Shani, Abigail, Carmen, and most of Carmen's girls had some shade or other of red hair. It made me laugh at the time, so I was just agreeing with Wishwizard that there are a lot of redheads on screen. That's not a negative thing for me, though.  ;) The books make it quite clear that Triss and Shani both have red hair, and the game devs are CDPRed  :D after all, so there are perfectly good reasons for a color motif, especially when it stands out so well from the browns, greens and greys of the physical environment.

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Wishwizard: I mean look at triss, she is so self power hungry and doesnt really care about you and flicks you away at the end dissapointingly!

As I said, I did not interpret it quite so harshly, although I know several others on this thread saw her exactly this way. Triss seemed to me to be trying to work through a complex situation and, like Geralt, to be choosing the lesser of two evils. One of the things I love about the game is that there is always the chance that the characters will make the wrong choices and cause far more damage than intended. I'm glad it doesn't stop the gameplay, though.

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Wishwizard: She was perhaps my most fearsome opponent in the witcher the grandmother, i mean she was the only one to phsicly kick me outside with no choice in fighting her. Not many opponents could have done that!

;D Maybe some of the modders could create a combat/fistfight tutorial in which Geralt and Grandma go head to head.

[Reaper004]

Eh, I'm reading the Blood of Elves and I must say that thus far I like Triss much better than Shani.

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In the book Geralt takes care of Triss for several weeks while she is incapacitated by some unknown ailment and she actually shows some form of appreciation in disgust with herself, where as in the game she doesnt. But I chose Triss still 'cuz of her book character.

[Aileane]

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The choice between Shani and Triss was hard. But after I decided to go with Triss I realy enjoyed her company (especially in the end).

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I was really unhappy with how much she ordered Geralt around, how she told him how to behave at the banquet as if he were a child, and generally treated him with a lack of respect.

Geralt is a bit grumbly and at the banquet she pushes him to do uncomfortable necessities, almost like a wife. Their strengths match perfectly imo.

Well many years ago (before Geralt lost his memory) he used to attend another banquet with another girl - and she behaved exactly the same with him as Triss did. Funny thing is that Triss was also present at that banquet I mentioned and she was really jeallous of Geralt and his partner - she took a good look and now she's acting the same.

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Well many years ago (before Geralt lost his memory) he used to attend another banquet with another girl - and she behaved exactly the same with him as Triss did. Funny thing is that Triss was also present at that banquet I mentioned and she was really jeallous of Geralt and his partner - she took a good look and now she's acting the same.

Doesn't that show you how a women's mind works. It's either their way, or the highway. And I do mean this with the utmost of consideration... that is, women tend to have the opportunity to sway events in their favor with disregard of their own beings as stated philosophical literature. That would explain their sudden change of heart to the primordial essence they previously repulsed and, therefore, the wheel turns once more. Simply, actions are only subjects to their reactions and the women simply applied her experience of the situation and delicately performed with the same persona lived by her opponent at the previous banquet. It is only nature, really.  :peace: