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I got "The Last Wish"


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04.01.2008 @ 21:08 #1

And I'm confused, very. I'm talking about the way its written. I got to page 40 [Grain of truth], and I don't understand the time. I mean, how exctecly is the book written way? [without to many spoilers pleas], and also, THIS IS, the first book, right? So I haven't missed something that might make me more confused, right?

By the way, great book. Rally, really interesting. A bit hard for me to read thu [only 15 years old, from Israel], but never mind.
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04.01.2008 @ 21:35 #2

What do you mean by sayin' "time"? I don,t exactly understand  :-\. "Last wish" is the first published Sapkowski book.
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04.01.2008 @ 21:53 #3

Maybe the timeline thing is confusing for him. Haven't read the english version, so I don't know how's the translation, but in polish it was really easy to understand - it starts with Geralt and Iola in bed. He tells her about his live and what he made through, she listens. And then... no, no spoilers ;)
15, you say? Well, you're a bit young (that's a positive thing ;) and the books are quite mature, but still - I think you will like them a lot.
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04.01.2008 @ 23:16 #4

The books The Last Wish, Blood of Elves, Sword of Destiny happened (long) before the game. That's how I understand it.

Oh btw. my neighbor's kid is just 12 and she reads currently my Song of Ice & Fire books from R. R. Martin. She is all fan of Tyrion (those who know the series, know who that is)!
Can't say she is too young. She is intelligent and mature enough to see difference between fiction and reality - she even realizes that what she reads there had been in a way reality a 200 - 300 years ago, where girls got married off with 12 for political reasons.
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05.01.2008 @ 02:15 #5

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And I'm confused, very. I'm talking about the way its written. I got to page 40 [Grain of truth], and I don't understand the time. I mean, how exctecly is the book written way? [without to many spoilers pleas], and also, THIS IS, the first book, right? So I haven't missed something that might make me more confused, right?

By the way, great book. Rally, really interesting. A bit hard for me to read thu [only 15 years old, from Israel], but never mind.


Yes. It's the first book. Most of the stories in the book were published before in the "Fantastyka" magazine, and in the book, a framing story - "A Voice of Reason" was introduced, to link the individual stories together. Therefore, the main story of the book is "A Grain of Truth", while all other stories are presented as Geralt's flashbacks during the framing story. He heals his wounds from the fight with the striga at the temple of Melitele in Ellander and has retrospects of his various previous adventures while he's there.

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05.01.2008 @ 08:36 #6

I see, thanks for your help. I'm at page 6X, man this book is really good =]
I think I understand how it goes, so ultimately, he's resting at the temple after the Striga fight, and thinking about his old adventure or something like that?
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05.01.2008 @ 13:59 #7

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I see, thanks for your help. I'm at page 6X, man this book is really good =]
I think I understand how it goes, so ultimately, he's resting at the temple after the Striga fight, and thinking about his old adventure or something like that?


Yup, he recalls some of his precious adventures.

The book is actually a collection of short stories about the Witcher (which were published individually in a fantasy magazine), the Voice of Reason is there only to bind them together, so I wouldn't treat the book as one narrative so much.
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05.01.2008 @ 14:21 #8

Ok thanks. If I already have a topic, then ill ask it here, I kinda have problem with something\ someone called "Eltibald". What is it? I'm at page 90 right now, so without much spoilers pleas P:
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05.01.2008 @ 14:58 #9

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Ok thanks. If I already have a topic, then ill ask it here, I kinda have problem with something\ someone called "Eltibald". What is it? I'm at page 90 right now, so without much spoilers pleas P:


Eltibald was a sorcerer obsessed with the idea of the Curse of the Black Sun. Because of him, many young girls were killed or imprisoned as "cursed" by the Black Sun, which was most likely just a normal eclipse. This should be pretty clear from Geralt's conversation with Stregobor.
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05.01.2008 @ 20:56 #10

Thanks.
Pleas keep this open, I may have anther question, so itll be best to ask it here. I'm at page 160. Sadly, tomrow it seems ill finish the book. 2 days. Always fast, and sad =[
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06.01.2008 @ 19:05 #11

Im sorry for the DB, but I think its better then opening a new theard.
Anyway, I have finished the book moments ago, man, what a book !~!
I think ill read it again, this kind of books always gets more interesting second time, when you see little new hidden-stuff.

Never the less, I have a question, two questions actually What exactly happened to Lola at the end? I couldn't quite understand it.
The next Witcher books, is there any one working on the next translation for the next book [blood of the elves right]?
Pleas say "yes", I so want to read more of it P:

P.S Iv just read that the UK GOLLANCZ skipped "The Sword of Destiny", why did he skipped it? What is this book about?
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06.01.2008 @ 22:14 #12

Iola (not Lola) has a vision of Geralt's future. Apparently his future is pretty dark.

"The Sword of Destiny" is the second short story collection about Geralt, similar to "The Last Wish". It introduces many characters and themes that are important to the Witcher novels that follow it. The publisher (Gollancz) is skipping it and going directly to "Blood of Elves" because novels sell better than short stories.

"Blood of Elves" is going to be published in English in August or September.
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07.01.2008 @ 14:03 #13

If they really want to skip "the sword of destiny", tnhe novell will be missanderstuded and simply not logic. Pretty short vision idea IMHO. They willl sooner sell novell, but I suspect critics to destroy them.

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07.01.2008 @ 17:23 #14

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If they really want to skip "the sword of destiny", tnhe novell will be missanderstuded and simply not logic. Pretty short vision idea IMHO. They willl sooner sell novell, but I suspect critics to destroy them.


Well, it is not *that* hard to read the novels without The Sword of Destiny, I know a few people who started with Blood of Elves, but you'll just understand less in the beginning.
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08.01.2008 @ 15:03 #15

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If they really want to skip "the sword of destiny", tnhe novell will be missanderstuded and simply not logic. Pretty short vision idea IMHO. They willl sooner sell novell, but I suspect critics to destroy them.


Well, it is not *that* hard to read the novels without The Sword of Destiny, I know a few people who started with Blood of Elves, but you'll just understand less in the beginning.


Yup, it's doable, I've read the short stories after reading the saga. I don't recall being lost in the dark so I suppose you'll only miss some intro lore. Anyway I suspect the editor will publish some foreword which explains, more or less, what happens in the two or three Sword of Destiny stories that are relevant to the saga.
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08.01.2008 @ 18:28 #16

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Anyway I suspect the editor will publish some foreword which explains, more or less, what happens in the two or three Sword of Destiny stories that are relevant to the saga.


I doubt it. Anyway, they might publish The Sword of Destiny later as well, if the novels prove to be popular.
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08.01.2008 @ 21:38 #17

You may be right, but I'm a wicked fan of those books and if I was an english reader I'd be propably pi... very mad about that way of publishing. ;]

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09.01.2008 @ 20:10 #18

Yeah, if I knew what I was missing I'd go for the stories first. And if I knew I wouldn't get'em due to some editor's publishing plan heads would roll. My suggestions: get a bunch o' pitchforks and torches, form an angry mob and give Gollancz some medieval reader's feedback.
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24.01.2008 @ 18:53 #19

Just receive "The last wish" and "sword of destiny" today (in their french translation). Actually I am in the middle of the second story (the beauty and the beast like), and so far I'm loving it. I particulary appreciated that the first story happen in the location of the game with some characters we already know.

Actually those 2 books are the only ones from Sapkowski that are translated in french. I really hope the whole saga will follow. If the game sell well in France, I guess it will be the case. Anyway I'm looking forward reading it.


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24.01.2008 @ 22:29 #20

"Blood of Elves" ("Le Sang des Elfes") will be available in French in June.
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