[tartarsause]

Yeah, I did load back to a previous point but it still crashed.

Also, the PC Wizard folder is too large for me to post it and I am also unable to find the error report in the system folder.

Work arounds ?

[Seifer12]

Hi everyone. I've got a fps drop problem on this system: Core 2 duo 2.7 Ghz, 4Gb RAM, nVidia 9800 GT with all kinds of settings (medium, low and high). The game version is 1.5, my drivers and directX are latest and OS is a Windows XP SP3.   Can u please give me some advice of solving it?

[coastie65]

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Processor: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80 Ghz 2.79 GHZ
RAM: 1GB

That's your bottleneck right there, and if that card isn't GT OC'd or Ultra, upgrade the card, now.

Reasonable price AMD dual core 4400+ or better and 2GB PC6400 DDR2 Look for low latencies with this RAM, PCI-E boards are all over the site AGP has ATI 1950xt and I believe 2800? not sure you gotta research this stuff starting from google, the best shipping and fair price so far has been newegg dot com.

This is old i know, but this info is a bit off. I have played the game on a Pentiun D and it did quite well. The Video card shpuld be upgraded. It played without a hitch on an Nvidia 8600GT ( hopefully the poster had PCIe capability ).  Adding some memory would be helpful as well. If he has PCIe, he can get an Nvidia 9400GT or 9500Gy and it wwill do quite well. With the 9400, he can use a 300w PSU  as well.

[Aerodynamic]

Here is my quote from different topic, it may come usefull for people which ave performance problems:

[quote][/quote] I partially solved issue by uninstalling ccc and using ati tray tools to fix the clock speeds of my graphic card.
I also disabled "write combining" as well as catalyst AI, used cacheman xp(in which i disabled lastntfs tipestamp) and behold the stutters reduced by 70 percent.

However, there are still ocasional stutterings when entering some areas.

I might try flip queu size as well to see if that is the problem.[/quote]

[MadHatter43]

I'm having problems with lag in the game. I'll be able to watch the first cut scene of the game fine and fight the first battle well. But, after that it all goes downhill. Once I start to watch the second cut scene it starts lagging and even if I skip it the game still stays beyond slow. So what can I do to fix this??
Here are my specs from P.C. wizard if it helps

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[*Tommy*]

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I'm having problems with lag in the game. I'll be able to watch the first cut scene of the game fine and fight the first battle well. But, after that it all goes downhill. Once I start to watch the second cut scene it starts lagging and even if I skip it the game still stays beyond slow. So what can I do to fix this??
Here are my specs from P.C. wizard if it helps

Well you could shut down all unnecessary background programs and exclude the witcher from realtime protection and there are several ingame options that could increase playability such as lower resolution, shadows, lighting,grass and so forth these settings are found in the options panel

[MadHatter43]

Thanks! it helped out quite a bit to do all that :) I guess that's what I get for being a noob with computers XD

[*Tommy*]

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Thanks! it helped out quite a bit to do all that :) I guess that's what I get for being a noob with computers XD

Hey we all noobies at some point (lol)

[kenshee]

I've just started chapter 3 and I've had quite a lot of trouble running the game smoothly throughout the game.
I do know however that my pc is not that strong, so I just wanted to ask if I shouldn't expect decent results with:
windows 7 32-bit
intel core 2 duo P8600 2.40 GHz
4,00 GB RAM
ati mobility radeon HD 3430

I've patched it up to 1.5, and I have the latest drivers for my video card.

For some locations, like inside a house, things go well. But outside when there's rain or fire, it's nearly unplayable (which makes the boss fights so far harder than they should have been '^^)

As for settings, I set everything on lowest aside from textures on high (doesn't seem to make much difference speedwise, and everything looks way better on high) and visibility distance on medium (I suppose I could turn it to low, but that's just unpleasant :/).
My max resolution is 1280x800 and I'm running it on 1024x768, if I set it lower I have difficulty playing.

Oh, also I read the FAQ and TAGES isn't installed and I already shut off every process (well, most) that I didn't need.

I also tried pcwizard, but it always crashes while trying to analyze :/
It did produce a pretty long text file though, so hopefully not too much is missing from the added file, if there's more info you need, please tell me how to give it.

The game has crashed a couple of times, but that never bothers me, I save all the time anyways. It's not like I know when it'll happen though, so I don't think I can add an errorlog or anything.

And as one last little addition to an already way too long post '^^, at the start of chapter three during a scene, there was something 'very' wrong with a character's hair  (trying not to spoil '^^), this happened again after reloading. Before that I didn't notice any major graphical glitches aside from the occasional person being frozen stiff while talking.

The game has been amazing so far, and I could only imagine how it would be like to play at a nice framerate/fps, so it would be great if someone could tell me if that should be possible with this pc.

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[*Tommy*]

Act 3 and 5 can be pretty hard  as those 2 are resource hungry
You could try in windowed mode the only drawback to this is that you can`t move your cursor to the side of the screen and look around while paused but it might give a little boost also make an exception in your AV program
Could also disconnect from the internet and turn av off but turn it back on when finished playing
as far as settings turn Anistropic filter off---Antialiasing off---all other settings except texture and visibility range on low
depth of field unchecked  small animals number to few
with grass on low you won`t see any grass so that should help with playability

Also get either malwarebytes or SUPERantispyware both are free and do a full system scan to make sure you don`t have any malware on your machine because they can slow a computer down to a crawl

[kenshee]

don't have any AV running '^^, ever, not on this pc anyways.

Everything you said about settings is already set up that way, which is why I'm a bit confused why this still slows down so much at times :/  (and other games don't)
I know starcraft2 for example probably isn't as resource-hungry, but that runs very smooth on low-medium, same with dragon age origins.

I tried the window mode but that didn't change anything.
I'll try scanning (though I do use advanced systemcare quite often, but I guess that one might not be very thourough), and come back with the results.
EDIT: tried malwarebytes, found 1 registry problem so nothing serious.

Though I thought I had the newest directX and video card drivers, I just installed both, directX again maybe, and graphics just got updated a few days ago, after those the game runs a little better. (really small improvement, but still, noticeable nonetheless).

Oh, and I do usually put a cable between my laptop and tv (VGA I think), which, when I first did it didn't seem to affect speed, but could that be making it worse at the more intense moments?

[*Tommy*]

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don't have any AV running '^^, ever, not on this pc anyways.

Everything you said about settings is already set up that way, which is why I'm a bit confused why this still slows down so much at times :/  (and other games don't)
I know starcraft2 for example probably isn't as resource-hungry, but that runs very smooth on low-medium, same with dragon age origins.

I tried the window mode but that didn't change anything.
I'll try scanning (though I do use advanced systemcare quite often, but I guess that one might not be very thourough), and come back with the results.
EDIT: tried malwarebytes, found 1 registry problem so nothing serious.

Though I thought I had the newest directX and video card drivers, I just installed both, directX again maybe, and graphics just got updated a few days ago, after those the game runs a little better. (really small improvement, but still, noticeable nonetheless).

Oh, and I do usually put a cable between my laptop and tv (VGA I think), which, when I first did it didn't seem to affect speed, but could that be making it worse at the more intense moments?

the latest directx update is june 2010 and can be found here
and the 2010 vc redistributables can be found here this updates your VC library

[kenshee]

Yep, that's the directX I installed.
And I've never updated the vc redistributables, not unless that ever happened with windows updating, so thanks, I'll give that a try as well.

EDIT:
Didn't help in the end :/
Oh well, playing in 1024x600 now, added a couple of fps and looks ok, a bit muddy but it works. I also turned down visibility to low, I guess I can switch that back if there's less intensive moments.
Well, getting about 12 fps minimum in the busy place at noon while raining, so perhaps that's just the most I'll get out of this pc?

I'll have to get a decent gaming pc around the time the witcher 2 comes out anyways, so I guess I'll be replaying this one on that pc on highest settings then, should prove as a great incentive for another playthrough XD

of course, I'll still be continuing this playthrough, so if anyone knows another way I might get it to run better, please do share ^^

[Waxd82]

Hello,
I get about 20 fps on the street in ch.3, other scenes are better but still delay in battle.
Can I have 55~60 fps with x2 555? Or I need a 4core CPU?

my machine:
X2 5600+
6G ram
5770 1G
XP sp3

[*Tommy*]

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Hello,
I get about 20 fps on the street in ch.3, other scenes are better but still delay in battle.
Can I have 55~60 fps with x2 555? Or I need a 4core CPU?

my machine:
X2 5600+
6G ram
5770 1G
XP sp3

Are you on the 1.5 patch if not then read the FAQ: http://www.thewitche...p?topic=17503.0 update to patch 1.5 first, remove TAGES as explained, then retry

Also read: http://witcher.wikia...lp_on_the_forum and attach that PCWizard report as instructed
do attach the file ERRLOG.TXT from The Witcher/System folder ( if the game crashed )

Are you running any mods ?

[Sindarus]

After reading 56 pages of basically, "WTF is going on?...," I've come to the conclusion that most people are upgrading components in, essentially, the wrong order, only further increasing the bottleneck that is killing their gaming experience (i.e. "It runs as poorly on low as on high"). There's a problem component somewhere that needed replacing long before you dumped a current generation GPU in a 6 year old system.

I bought the game just recently and I'm dealing with playing it on my work laptop:
  CPU:  AMD Phenom II-N620 @ 2x 2.8GHz
  NB:    AMD 785GX
  RAM:  4GB DDR3-1333 (9-9-9-24 @ 1T) <---- This would be so ousted for tighter timings if HP wasn't anti-tweak
  GPU:  ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 (Core: 203MHz, VRAM: 320MB @ 400MHz)

It runs flawlessly on low settings (55-60 FPS @ 1366x768 with no stutter, even in ch.3) and mediocre at best on max settings (15-30 FPS with intermittent stutter, near unplayable in ch.3). It's more than playable and easily enjoyed if you understand the limitations of the system you're putting it on and don't try to run it on High/16xAF/4xAA when your comp can't handle it. I can't complain because I KNEW ~$600 wasn't going to buy me a beast of a laptop for gaming.

The moral of the story... think of computing like going out to eat. Can you really complain when your $10 Sirloin doesn't satisfy like a $30 Bison Ribeye? It's still steak... so sit down, shut up, and enjoy it.

Waxd,
4 cores are not mandated for gaming still unless you run so much junk in the background your game doesn't have a core to stand on. Going to depend greatly on what kind of graphics settings you want 60FPS at as to what you will need. I don't have 2 systems that are anywhere near similar with the exception of core count, so outside of well-threaded applications I couldn't say what kind of difference there was "real-world" performance wise between duo and quad core builds.

Some babble... that may or may not be of interest to you:
32bit XP can't see 6GB of RAM (it's been a while, I may have that mixed up) so, remember,  better RAM is more valuable to you than a lot of RAM. If your planning on staying with AMD when upgrading, you may consider saving until you can make the step up to an AM3 socket if you haven't yet (I think the 5600+ is AM2 and I'm not familiar with a 555, I could be wrong... never used one). Always research before upgrading. AM3 boards will NOT hold AM2/AM2+ processors, and very few of them will operate on the DDR2 memory standard. Also remember that DDR3 does not mean 3-channel. I've seen that mistake countless times. Triple-channel is distinctly run on higher end i-Series systems (x58 chipset limited I believe, but I may be mistaken... I don't have a bucket full of Benjamins to throw at one) and has to do with the processor's memory controller.

PS... w00t I forgot to hit "Send" an hour ago... and it logged me off. LOL

[Waxd82]

Thanks, tommy.
Patch1.5 is installed, TAGES is removed, and no mods. It seems nothing different.

Sindarus,
I have tried all kind of graphic setting (no AA/AF~4AA/8AF, 800*600~1600*1200), but few fps change between high and low in most situations. Only "View range" setting has more influence. I guess that the number of objects (trees, buildings, etc.) in the screen is the point, and I believe it relates to CPU. Even setting the shortest range, it cannot run at 40+ fps in ch.3 street with 5600+. I just wonder what kind of CPU is enough for this.

And thanks for your hardware tip. I know x86 system has some limitations, but I bought those ram when very very cheap :P. Besides, I will use x64 system eventually.

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[Sindarus]

After milling it over for a bit, and I'm taking a leap, I'm assuming the x2 555 your talking about is a Phenom II x2 555. If that's the case, it should handle most everything just fine. I actually used a 555 BE for my little brothers computer and I think you'll be more than happy with it if that's the route you take. Plenty of bang for your buck and for the computer savvy, plenty of room to play around (might oust the stock HSF though). You will however be required to get a new board and likely new RAM (AM3 is current tech at least... more room for future growth). I'm thinking the earliest quad from AMD was on the AM2+ platform, which would still require a new board, but the DDR2 memory standard was still kosher.

There's no real knowing if a processor will solve all that ails your playing until you try it. Do a little bit of market research and decide on a budget (figure around $250-270US for MB/CPU/RAM...). Worst case, you can always spitball ideas here.

[*Tommy*]

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Thanks, tommy.
Patch1.5 is installed, TAGES is removed, and no mods. It seems nothing different.

Sindarus,
I have tried all kind of graphic setting (no AA/AF~4AA/8AF, 800*600~1600*1200), but few fps change between high and low in most situations. Only "View range" setting has more influence. I guess that the number of objects (trees, buildings, etc.) in the screen is the point, and I believe it relates to CPU. Even setting the shortest range, it cannot run at 40+ fps in ch.3 street with 5600+. I just wonder what kind of CPU is enough for this.

And thanks for your hardware tip. I know x86 system has some limitations, but I bought those ram when very very cheap :P. Besides, I will use x64 system eventually.

You may also want to update your directx to June 2010
As well as your VC Redistributables

A few suggestions you may consider shut down all unneeded programs as well as make an exception in your antivirus for the witcher disable CCC and use ATI tool tray

Of course there are many in-game settings you could try but i think the most important are in the advanced section especially if your looking for a fps boost would be the grass and shadow quality as well the small animal numberand depth of field. But from a personal view i don`t think you will "see" any difference in gameplay as long as the fps can remain in the mid 30 range and up. I don`t know if ATI has the option where you can select the number of prerendered frames the cpu gets before it goes to the video card but if it does you can increase it and that way you could get a smoother gameplay at the lower fps

[Licaon_Kter]

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Thanks, tommy.
Patch1.5 is installed, TAGES is removed, and no mods. It seems nothing different.

Chapter 3 is way bigger than the previous ones, so it's better to lower your game settings as neccesary. Also do keep in mind that the game uses a modified Aurora engine ( yes, it's the one used in Neverwinter Nights 1 back in 2002 ) so it will use one single CPU core anyway, the faster the core the better.

also, read the FAQ: http://www.thewitche...p?topic=17503.0 as maybe some tips there might help you, there's a link to a review site that got all the video settings tested too