[EPILOGUE] Romance endings?
21.11.2007 @ 20:58 #1
1. What happens if you choose Shani?
2. Did Triss and Geralt separate at the end? What happened to their romance???
The other stuff Alvin=GM (definitely), and assassin - another witcher , that much I got.
21.11.2007 @ 22:18 #2
Geralt realises in the Lakside instance that he isn't made for a romance and family - no matter how much he desires it.
And Triss has to do what sorceresses do that meddle with politics... so Geralt goes his own ways, while she remains as an advisor or more at the kings side.
The Sani story ends similar... but it is unclear what happens to Shani.
26.11.2007 @ 05:00 #4
27.11.2007 @ 01:27 #5
I guess in the case of Triss, sounds like she's a bit too busy for ya so I don't know how that one would pan out :P
03.12.2007 @ 16:03 #7
24.12.2007 @ 02:59 #8
27.12.2007 @ 17:27 #10
I liked how they did this in Quest For Glory V... simple but quite effective.
31.12.2007 @ 22:29 #11
I actually chose Shani because I thought that Triss was behind something after seeing her speak to another sorcoress in the mirror, so throughout the rest of the game I was waiting for something to conspire. However, even a fact to disprove my suspicion never arose. Keep in mind that I haven't completed the game yet with choosing Triss, though.
01.01.2008 @ 00:21 #12
Next conversation with Triss (if you chose her) either you will tell her or she will tell you, it's really not possible for your romance to work out, at least not for the foreseeable future. Even though you may later come to understand just how much you really do love her, you've also already realized that being a Witcher precludes you from long term love relationships. That's both the end and the meaning, as I see it.
The "fly in the ointment" IMO is if you chose Shani. The first Shani conversation option is consistent with the above but the second option is problematic. With the second option you tell Shani you love her and even though things can't work out now you promise to return when this is all over. But then the game's all over, you're walking down the road with your horse and nothing is said about Shani. You wonder, "Did I make an empty promise to Shani or what?"
Maybe the game's end didn't mean the conflict was all over; in any case you understand a Witcher's destiny dictates certain constraints on love; you will go back to see Shani someday... but the right day hasn't yet arrived... (a little more prompting would have helped).
That's my two cents (Beware: two cents may be an excessive valuation).
02.01.2008 @ 17:25 #13
But maybe this is all due to budget and time restriction. To me at least the 5th act and the epilogue don't seem to be on par with the rest of the game.
02.01.2008 @ 22:29 #14
IMO, one has to factor in Geralt's flashback in Act IV when he saves Alvin from the Devourer at the riverbank:
[pre] What was I thinking?
Maybe we could settle down together? Hmmm.
At least I stopped short of proposing.
Shani deserves someone normal.
Someone who will care for her, not wander the world risking his neck for a handful of coin.
I have no right to put her and Alvin in that position.
I'm a Witcher.
And sometimes I miss them... her. [/pre]
It's an unhappy admission by Geralt to himself that he cannot have the "family idyll" because he is a Witcher.
So what does he mean when he later tells Shani he will come back and meet her again later? He ought to mean something not inconsistent with his flashback realization. As I said, I felt a little more prompting would have helped.
Maybe it just boils down to one of those flaws a Hollywood star would brush away by calling it a "beauty mark".
03.01.2008 @ 02:14 #17
Btw, if you choose Shani she is helping him in the long ice way to the grand master. Is that a result of this choice or is she doing this all the time?
03.01.2008 @ 02:42 #18
I agree with you -- what you thought you were choosing seems entirely plausible in light of character growth and development. The second Shani option is problematic to me -- the others make good sense without an additional "ending".
In your earlier post, you mentioned how the problem might have arisen as a result of trying to get the game out at the end... You might enjoy reading the following blog of one of the developers, titled "Crunch Time" here http://blogs.ign.com/Thilnen. Seems that you are probably right...
Re your query about Shani's help in the "ice world" at the end; she's there because of your choice of her as opposed to Triss, i.e., Shani will be there when you leave Alvin with her (regardless of which additional romance option you choose), and the same is true of Triss.
I've just got to add that I think you'll get lots of additional enjoyment from replays with slight or major variations in this game. There's just so much there... The developers really were obsessed.
03.01.2008 @ 16:52 #19
thanks a lot for the link, a pity I can't read his longer Polish blog.
I certainly will replay TW choosing the Order and Triss to get a different perspective. The fact that we really want to end the story in a way which is meaningful in view of the choices we made during the game is one of the biggest praises for the game: It succeeded in depicting its characters; not in a realistic way - we are in a fantasy world which obeys its own genre conventions after all - but with far more depth than most games I have played.
07.01.2008 @ 08:00 #20