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I LOVE IT vs I HATE IT

Poll: The Witcher (2178 member(s) have cast votes)

The Witcher

  1. Love it :D (2653 votes [94.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 94.58%

  2. Hate it >:( (81 votes [2.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.89%

  3. The What ??? (71 votes [2.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.53%

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06.08.2012 @ 11:42 #1561

I loved W1, but not feelin it in W2. I might get use to it but it feels like a different game to me. If I had a wish it would be to have the game be just like the first one with the better graphics in the 2nd one.
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09.08.2012 @ 17:05 #1562

I love the Witcher. I do wish they would make some expansions for witcher 1 or 2. Like some sort of extra episode not directly linked to the main game.

Oh well, I can also just wait for Witcher 3
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09.08.2012 @ 17:48 #1563

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I love the Witcher. I do wish they would make some expansions for witcher 1 or 2. Like some sort of extra episode not directly linked to the main game. ›››

A lot of us wish this! It seems unlikely that CDPR will make any more adventures for TW1, though there's still a chance that they'll make an expansion pack for TW2.

There are a lot of fan-made adventures for TW1, though. They're of variable quality -- some of them are about as good as the CDPR-made adventure "The Price of Neutrality," and some of them are, ah, less good. :teeth:

You can find a list of the 19 fan-made adventures that are available in English here, and you can find one fan's review of them here.
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10.08.2012 @ 20:52 #1564

Nice, thanks. I didn't know these existed. Looks great so I go try a few.
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21.08.2012 @ 11:54 #1565

I prefer the first Witcher, the second ist no bad game. But lost the most elements of RPG. And the most important to me, the isometric camera.
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08.10.2012 @ 19:15 #1566

What I'd like to know is who the 79 people who registered an account to vote "I hate it" were.
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19.10.2012 @ 10:10 #1567

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As many of you - dear users - start new topics just to say how much you liked the game or how much you are disappointed with it I suggest putting all you opinions here in this single topic. Hope this helps keeping our board nice and neat ;) ›››


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30.10.2012 @ 14:11 #1568

Love it, of course! Great games based on great novels by great writer - Andrzej Sapkowski.
However, I still prefer W1 to W2. W2 was like... a bit too short and the plot went far too quickly compared to W1. But that, of course, does not change the fact that both of them are amazing. Can't wait for W3.
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20.12.2012 @ 12:00 #1569

All in all W1 was good enough and W2 was awesome, but imma blast about some of the flaws in W2 (gasp it ain't perfect).

Witcher 1 was very flawed as a game in it's core, and correct me if I'm wrong, showed the developer's steep learning curve in making games. It had too much loose ends and little features that had diverted focus from honing the main quest into an good interactive experience. What bothers me in both games is a scripted feeling in many aspects of the games, which in W2 is largely shadowed by the awesome writing and multi-choice plot line. Different possible outcomes in the plot gave the game nice replay value making it effectively a new game on my 2nd playthrough (I'm currently starting in Loc Muinne in dark mode, on Iorveth's side). But I digress. Not to disrespect CD Projekt's efforts in the two games, but as a whole, Witcher 2 would've been a perfect Witcher 1. The actual first installment of the series just felt very strange to me in the beginning, throwing me into the middle of a world, of which I knew nothing, and what made the prologue seem like drinking tar fore me. I had know idea what the witcher's were about, nor what Kaer Morhen was, who the hell Geralt of Rivia is, and everything just confused me. Nothing had logic in it and everything just felt like a big MacGuffin. The first game was poorly optimized, none of the characters sparked any interest and the end was just anti-climatic (which kind of repeated itself in the second game).

Then came the second one, which actually prompted me to try the first one (I was star-struck from waiting for Portal 2 to release and bashed my friends for waiting some "weird-ass-witcher" to come out). I bought the first, went through what I just described and bought the 2nd game, after a bit of research in gaming media if W2 had any potential. I decided it could have. I bought a physical copy from Amazon, installed it, found out my computer couldn't really run it that well, waited for 2 months, got a new GPU and voilá, I finally got to play a gorgeus game with graphic settings it deserved. Story starts out in an interesting prologue scene and was way more efficiently constructed than the first one, which had a lot of roaming around an empty ruin of a castle. Of course I chose Hard mode, since nowadays I breeze through modern games on normal, 'cause they're easy as f**k. Immediately I found out the W2 was HARD as f**k. I lost all my precious vigor trying to desperately block incoming bolts and swords, and noticed that in mere seconds I was dead. Shit. Back to the basics, I had to take the game seriously. And when I got over the fact that I had found a game that actually presented a challenge, I got busy. First things first, losing vigor from blocking just made the hard mode seem like Quen abuse mode and childishly hard. But in general the game does provide you tools to survive, and when you die, you die on your own accord (as of know there still is some input glitches when mapping custom keys, i.e. the cast sign X command into a different button, lets say thumb buttons on my MX518 mouse - on several occasions the cast sign command has just changed the sign and not cast it which has led to some frustrating deaths and beginning of combat after cutscenes just sometimes leaves me open for incoming blows). So the game has a mature learning curve, no pampering the player, love it.

The story is much more relatable in W2. You're a monster hunter, in the favor and service of King Foltest (which btw could use some introduction for players not familiar with the story of W1; again correct me if I've missed something, it's a while since the 1st playthrough and of course I skip every starting cinematics), you go through the prologue, learn the ropes, get framed for regicide, escape etc. Right from the start you're given these really hard choices to make and if at first they don't seem like it, you'll soon see how they affect the story of the game. It gives a another kind of weight to the decisions you make, and really forces you to stop and take a breather. If you're a hardcore role player you'll just pick the one that suits "your" Geralt's personality, but generally none of them perfectly do. Geralt has his own kind of gritty pessimism to him that really brings out the shades of grey in the Witcher universe. There aren't any good or bad decisions, or any moral good or evil, just the lesser evil, depending on your point of view, or what side you want to take, racist humans or hateful Scoia'tael. And aside from a deep story, it also enhances the game's replay value, so when the guys at CD Projekt RED decide to release super-funtime-enhanced edition No. 47, you can still play out a new story of W2 because of the many winding paths.

And then there are the flaws. The game is beautiful, yes. It has a great story, yes. Combat's challenging and entertaining, yes. But still the game manages to feel limiting and scripted. The game environment is detailed and i.e. foliage brings a lot of atmosphere onto the table, but the maps are designed with a very constricting way and navigating around the forests' set paths often makes questing tedious, running back and forth the same roads. So for future sequels (please make some!) I'd like to see more open worlds. And I'm not saying we gotta be able to go from Temeria to Redania at will, but I'm asking to have more freedom in navigating around the villages and towns more freely. This was actually one of the strong points in W1, that it had more freedom in traversing around Vizima outskirts etc. Also some change in the pattern of every chapter, contracts an all, would be welcome. The linear level design is a part of the feel of being in a heavily scripted game. Most of the time you feel like you're on a rail track on your way to catch Letho. The conversation feature plays into this a lot. In action sequences it's really ajarring to be taken out of the fight to talk with your friend in really peaceful manner (the character animations aren't that vivid hint hint), while the war goes on in the background. A good example are the conversations you have in the middle of the siege of Vergen. The battle with Henselt also shows some weak points in the engine or development process, as the great 5000-head Kaedweni army doesn't really sound or look like a legion. This and the conversations amidst battle might've been patched a little by some simple sound design, like I don't know, war raging in the background? These are some of the problems I encountered with W2 and I'm open for discussing them if somebody has a different view on things.

*out of breath*

PS: Also, effin' Quick Time Events. If there was a Bible about game design, QTE's right in the Revelation, as one of the seven heads of the Beast. Feels more like a slap in the face than actual gameplay and I'd prefered entirely dynamic style of conversation.

Also fist fighting and dice poker prevailed from the first game, dull chores to get some orens. IMO they're small curiosities with no real addition to the experience and the time put into them could've gone into the main game. Yet again, I don't want to be a whining jerk, and want to remind CD that they have a golden IP in their hands and as a whole W2 is a bright star among the darkness of the gamesphere nowadays.

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23.12.2012 @ 10:59 #1570

Witcher 2

I HATE
1) Timed dialogue (what were you guys thinking?)
2) The combat pauses as you wait for animations to finish, ruins the flow & feel of the combat completely
3) The inventory/journal/map etc. SUCKS!
4) You can only drink potions while meditating (again, what were you guys thinking)
5) The input delay and mini games, clearly made with consoles in mind
6) The scanner medallion .. It's just silly.
7) I'm supposed to be able to tell the future (a.k.a. when to drink a potion before a fight) ...

I LOVE
Well I need to pay the game some more to find something that I truly like, I'm only beginning act one.
Pretty silly that I already have such a huge hate list this early in the game, it just shows some of the flawed design choices this game has.
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31.12.2012 @ 06:27 #1571

i just bought the 4 different copies of the witcher2 and spend around 200+ hours into it and more. plus all different copies of the witcher 3/4/5......
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08.01.2013 @ 19:38 #1572

I liked both the witcher 1 and 2 and I liked 2 more than 1.
With the Witcher 1 I was glad it was finally over( it became kinda tedious in the end) with Witcher 2 I was hoping for more( of which I believe is the best way to end a game when a 3rd installment is following it).
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09.01.2013 @ 06:41 #1573

At the moment I'm playing The Witcher Enhanced Edition and I'm up to chapter 3. This is my first time playing the game so my opinion on it may change after I've completed it.

What I love:

The side quests
The overall game play (in terms of battle sequences)
Environmental changes during game play (rain, day and night etc.)
The graphics
The price (I picked up my copy from steam for under $5) :thumbup:

What I hate:

The game crashes on my computer from time to time
The fact that the game is overally sexualized.

I am a female gamer, and I don't appreciate the idea of sex cards, kinky clothing (have you seen the underwear that the female characters wear?), straight out in your face nudity, and the idea of in order to complete some the quests you have to sleep with people. :thumbdown:

This might sound like a Feminist rant (no, I'm not a Feminist, I hold to Egalitarianism) but its a shame in my mind, that a brilliant game such as The Witcher comes with extra stuff that isn't necessary and unfortunately in this case, weighs it down. :no

Who were the developers trying to appeal to, teenage boys who are 'forever alone', or the general audience of gamers? I hope that this has been improved upon in The Witcher 2.

Come to think of it, are there any mods out there that censor some of the material in the game?
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09.01.2013 @ 20:50 #1574

matariki said:

I am a female gamer, and I don't appreciate the idea of sex cards, kinky clothing (have you seen the underwear that the female characters wear?), straight out in your face nudity, and the idea of in order to complete some the quests you have to sleep with people. Posted Image

This might sound like a Feminist rant (no, I'm not a Feminist, I hold to Egalitarianism) but its a shame in my mind, that a brilliant game such as The Witcher comes with extra stuff that isn't necessary and unfortunately in this case, weighs it down. Posted Image ›››


I'm afraid that the sexualization of the game, as you've mentioned above, comes from the very character of the books. Sapkowski's universe is not the nicest place, most of its inhabitants are nasty, and generally speaking the world is very spoilt, with no objectively defined moral rules. Sex, nudity and prostitution are parts of this world (just like ours), so I see no need of wiping it out of the plot. Oversexualization of some of the game's characters is a means to show its problems and all the aspects of the universe. Just like thieves, bandits and beggars, prostitutes are part of the overall 'landscape' of Vyzima. Besides, who doesn't like Carmen, eh? Posted Image
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10.01.2013 @ 16:40 #1575

matariki said:

At the moment I'm playing The Witcher Enhanced Edition and I'm up to chapter 3. This is my first time playing the game so my opinion on it may change after I've completed it.

What I love:

The side quests
The overall game play (in terms of battle sequences)
Environmental changes during game play (rain, day and night etc.)
The graphics
The price (I picked up my copy from steam for under $5) :thumbup:/>

What I hate:

The game crashes on my computer from time to time
The fact that the game is overally sexualized.

I am a female gamer, and I don't appreciate the idea of sex cards, kinky clothing (have you seen the underwear that the female characters wear?), straight out in your face nudity, and the idea of in order to complete some the quests you have to sleep with people. :thumbdown:/>

This might sound like a Feminist rant (no, I'm not a Feminist, I hold to Egalitarianism) but its a shame in my mind, that a brilliant game such as The Witcher comes with extra stuff that isn't necessary and unfortunately in this case, weighs it down. :no/>

Who were the developers trying to appeal to, teenage boys who are 'forever alone', or the general audience of gamers? I hope that this has been improved upon in The Witcher 2.

Come to think of it, are there any mods out there that censor some of the material in the game? ›››


The sex scenes just made me smile not because of the scene itself, but of voiceactors standing in a booth feigning orgasms ...bet that doesn't crop up in making off's LOL
Lastly I think it wasn't that present I only "ploughed" merrygold in the elven garden and that was it.( there was even a bit of a joke that came with that which I liked)
I always find it amusing when comments like this pop up, sure it is okay to cut someone in half with a sword or blow somebody's brain out, but if you show a nipple or anything sexrelated it suddenly becomes the end of the world as we know it....
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10.01.2013 @ 17:42 #1576

matariki said:

I am a female gamer, and I don't appreciate the idea of sex cards, kinky clothing (have you seen the underwear that the female characters wear?),


To be fair, part of this is a reasonable outcome from what the sorceresses are up to; they know that demonstrating their power by randomly immolating people is likely to cause more trouble than it's worth, and so use magic to turn themselves into supermodels so that the various nobles they serve as advisors to are more likely to welcome them at court and not think too much about the advice they're being given. On the one hand, you've got overt sexualisation... on the other hand, you've got guys are dumb because boobs. So neither gender really comes off too well there.

I found the nightgowns a bit anachronistic, but I guess people have to sleep in something and having Triss and Shani wear the same outfit was a way to save on art assets.

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straight out in your face nudity,


Probably a bit gratuitous, yes. I think part of this might also be a deliberate ploy; people may have bought the game to see the female characters in action, but then they got hit with a bait-and-switch because the sexual content in the game is actually only a minute fraction of the whole. So they've spent money on the game and to access the content they thought they'd be getting they actually have to play a game with reasonably complex mechanics and plot, and which poses some moral quandries.

I prefer it to be that way than the reverse, because I've run into games like that a few too many times >.<

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and the idea of in order to complete some the quests you have to sleep with people. :thumbdown:/>/>


There are no quests where you need to sleep with anyone. It is entirely possible to complete the game without going to bed with any other character at any point; the option is squarely in the hands of the player. In the case of three of the women Geralt can attempt to woo he has an existing relationship; he was with Shani once in the novels, he saved Adda (who has other reasons to want to seduce him, though I won't spoil the plot) and Triss is quite significant in the books. She also appears in The Witcher 2, so rekindling things with her makes a fair amount of narrative sense.

Personally I just stuck with Triss and turned everyone else down.

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Who were the developers trying to appeal to, teenage boys who are 'forever alone', or the general audience of gamers? I hope that this has been improved upon in The Witcher 2.


As mentioned earlier, anyone who came into the game with those expectations would have been hit with a magnificent bait-and-switch. The investment of time and effort for that reward is vastly disproportionate, to the point that I would expect such hopefuls to give up before completing Act I and then either go online to watch the cutscenes or see the art cards. Or, ideally, be drawn into the game and forget about that bit, though I may be somewhat naive in thinking that. Inasmuch as it's an element in The Witcher 2, it's applied pretty much the same way; yes, it's there, but it's been reduced significantly even from the first game.

Still, I find the notion of deliberately trolling the lowest common denominator like that to be hilarious. Your mileage may vary.

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Come to think of it, are there any mods out there that censor some of the material in the game?


I think the Enhanced Edition actually removed any regional censorship, but I don't know for sure. If there is a mod like that, googling "The Witcher Nexus" would be your best bet. I was there a few days ago and all the download links were broken, though; with luck they'll have fixed that by now.
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10.01.2013 @ 20:02 #1577

matariki said:

At the moment I'm playing The Witcher Enhanced Edition and I'm up to chapter 3. This is my first time playing the game so my opinion on it may change after I've completed it.

What I love:

The side quests
The overall game play (in terms of battle sequences)
Environmental changes during game play (rain, day and night etc.)
The graphics
The price (I picked up my copy from steam for under $5) :thumbup:/>

What I hate:

The game crashes on my computer from time to time
The fact that the game is overally sexualized.

I am a female gamer, and I don't appreciate the idea of sex cards, kinky clothing (have you seen the underwear that the female characters wear?), straight out in your face nudity, and the idea of in order to complete some the quests you have to sleep with people. :thumbdown:/>

This might sound like a Feminist rant (no, I'm not a Feminist, I hold to Egalitarianism) but its a shame in my mind, that a brilliant game such as The Witcher comes with extra stuff that isn't necessary and unfortunately in this case, weighs it down. :no/>

Who were the developers trying to appeal to, teenage boys who are 'forever alone', or the general audience of gamers? I hope that this has been improved upon in The Witcher 2.

Come to think of it, are there any mods out there that censor some of the material in the game? ›››


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11.01.2013 @ 01:30 #1578

matariki said:

I am a female gamer, and I don't appreciate the idea of sex cards, kinky clothing (have you seen the underwear that the female characters wear?), straight out in your face nudity, and the idea of in order to complete some the quests you have to sleep with people. :thumbdown:

I am also a female gamer, and I love The Witcher. Love it, love it, love it. :thumbsup:


matariki said:

Who were the developers trying to appeal to, teenage boys who are 'forever alone', or the general audience of gamers?

This game was developed in Poland, where the attitude towards nudity is much more relaxed than it is in some parts of the world. It is also, as Jeannyd said, based on the books that have a freewheeling approach to sexuality. The Witcher isn't for everyone. And that's okay.


matariki said:

Come to think of it, are there any mods out there that censor some of the material in the game? ›››

The North American version of the game used to have the sex censored, and the German version of the game used to have the blood censored. Other people have asked to have the censorship restored, so I've uploaded the sex-censored version of the files here. (I don't have access to the blood-censored files, and nobody ever asks for those, anyway.) Download all of the files with "Censored" in the title, unzip them, and put them in your The Witcher Enhanced Edition\Data directory, and you should get the censored versions of the cards and movies.
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15.01.2013 @ 11:54 #1579

Since 2011,I've decided to buy <The Witcher 2 - Collection Version>.But now,I still saving money for it...
The payment in China is not so good,even worse,I must give 90% of my payment to my family
It doesn't matter,that I will get on it
CD Projekt is very good,I don't want to download the pirate version of <The Witcher 2>
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31.01.2013 @ 21:03 #1580

Played abit of Witcher 2 and it was pretty awesome and I haven't played Wither 1 yet since I got it as a present from my dad on Christmas Eve.
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