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TW3 and DLC's

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13.03.2013 @ 16:18 #1

So TW3 will be an open world and all quests/story warped up. Does this mean that the open world will allow development of DLC installments so that players will continue the adventures of Geralt?

I for one hope so, Fallout 3 and its DLC were fantastic, if DLC's for Fallout 3 were still being made today, I would still be playing the game!
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13.03.2013 @ 17:09 #2

I think REDkit has been created in part for that... or open-wolrd has been implemented to enjoy the REDkit...well, who cares? :whistle:/> at least we will!!

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13.03.2013 @ 17:11 #3

They have stated that there will be 36 different situations when you leave the game world.
so I suppose there will be no more wondering in the open world, once the game has been finished.
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13.03.2013 @ 17:13 #4

I hope not. I don't want CDPR to focus on making content that doesn't fir the overall story just for the cashgrab.

If they do make DLCs I'd hope it's the same as in the EE of TW2 with the two new quests which resolved story threads that were left open due to development constraints.
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13.03.2013 @ 17:31 #5

Even if you have 36 different outcomes based on your game play, I for one don't like to play the same game with just using different kills or different answers to conversations or even rolling a different build. Why, because I don't like replaying the world that I have already played, there is no longer a sense of adventure or mystery but with a DLC (which I would be happy to pay for) there would be new quests, new characters to interact with, new decisions to be made (outside the main story which would have been completed).

The point being, it would be a huge waste of a world not to continuing with some adventuring in that world!

Also, keep in mind that in this day and age, with youtube, you can see other outcomes achieved by other players, so its not like I have to play it again myself to see the other outcomes! In addition, there will be other games released by game companys that might interest me more then just replaying TW3 using different build or story selections. But a DLC would be like a new game, all the mystery, character and story would be new!
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13.03.2013 @ 17:36 #6

DLC? Nope. Expansion pack on the other hand...
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13.03.2013 @ 17:44 #7

peteo said:

Even if you have 36 different outcomes based on your game play, I for one don't like to play the same game with just using different kills or different answers to conversations or even rolling a different build. Why, because I don't like replaying the world that I have already played, there is no longer a sense of adventure or mystery but with a DLC (which I would be happy to pay for) there would be new quests, new characters to interact with, new decisions to be made (outside the main story which would have been completed).

The point being, it would be a huge waste of a world not to continuing with some adventuring in that world!

Also, keep in mind that in this day and age, with youtube, you can see other outcomes achieved by other players, so its not like I have to play it again myself to see the other outcomes! In addition, there will be other games released by game companys that might interest me more then just replaying TW3 using different build or story selections. But a DLC would be like a new game, all the mystery, character and story would be new! ›››


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Good for you. I, IMO, when I meet somebody I used not see him/her again because once I know them they bore me a lot.... there's nothing new to discover.... and, you know, CDPR's games are just like all the others games: just created and made for been replayed without repeating.. but that's sounds very bored... really... :sleeping:/>
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13.03.2013 @ 17:52 #8

Wichat said:

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Good for you. I, IMO, when I meet somebody I used not see he/she again because once I know them they bore me a lot.... there's nothing new to discover.... and, you know, CDPR's are just like all the others games: just created and made for been replaing withoute repeaatting.. but that's sounds very bored... really... :sleeping:/>/>/>
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That's like asking why there are people who enjoy helping themselves to a portion of crema catalana one after the other, week after week after week. Really, it's a pointless question, especially in this case, because unlike books or crema catalane servings, TW3 boasts different middles and endings, so one won't really be playing the exact same game.

And yet still we come back to our Grandma's unchanging crema catalana, because it's so darn good.

PS-OT: hey Wichat, I never understood why it's called Crema Catalana since every single latin country seems to have its own version of a broiled custard.

My plan is to tease you to death.

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13.03.2013 @ 17:56 #9

Wichat, your point about meeting people is partially true, people evolve, they live their lives and when you meet them again, it can be new and exciting, on the other hand, it can be boring (relatives?!) it all depends, its really not a good comparison!!

Books on the other hand, yes, people read books they love many times, I don't do that, that's just me, people play the same game many times as different builds, I don't, that's just me.

Bottom line, it's good that there can be 36 different outcomes in TW3 but I would rather have a new DLC or as someone else stated, an expansion, either way is good.

I do believe that in one of the interviews, the CDP had stated that they like the electronic delivery style, so for a DLC or even an expansion, that would work very well!
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13.03.2013 @ 18:22 #10

I honestly think that there'll not be any official DCL (except, maybe a couple of easter eggs enhanced editions...if the guys of CDPR has time and will to do it) Personaly, I won't feel desappointed if there isn't any DCL of any kind. The work which CDPR is doing right now is quite enough for me: only the most impressive game we've ever seen, what else?

And, I as say, modders will give us a great selection of unofficial DLC's by the REDkit. I'll enjoy them surely!!

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13.03.2013 @ 18:31 #11

Enhanced Edition (if there's need for one) and a mod kit is all I hope for.
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13.03.2013 @ 18:38 #12

I'd love to see RED create an open ended game, yeah. If they choose not to, that's fine. But it'd be something special to be able to head out once again, after you've completed the game, and experience new adventures! If they choose to end the game whenever the games ending comes, that's cool. As long as there's an autosave or I get to save before the end and I can from there continue my journey without completing the main questline.

Oh and, if RED decides to charge for DLCs this time around, I'd be more than happy to pay. However! On the condition that they're not overpriced like many DLCs today are, and that they're quality stuff. If this is the case, then yeah, I'll buy DLC no probz. If it ends up being free that's fine too, obviously ^^
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13.03.2013 @ 19:47 #13

Well, I'm thinking of two things:
1. a lot of care and time will be spent of creating this open world
2. there will be down time for developers in between A+ game development

So, why not use the open world already created to keep the developers buys in between A+ games development by creating a DLC (or two) or expansion. All the hard work of creating the world is done, no need to waste it. Also, no layoffs!

Less time would be used in DLC development (perhaps more for an expansion) and yes, charge for it and deliver it electronically to save on costs.

I realize that all things come to an end and so will the world of Geralt, but there is no need to waste a good world while its still "hot"!
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13.03.2013 @ 20:06 #14

peteo said:

Well, I'm thinking of two things:
1. a lot of care and time will be spent of creating this open world
2. there will be down time for developers in between A+ game development

So, why not use the open world already created to keep the developers buys in between A+ games development by creating a DLC (or two) or expansion. All the hard work of creating the world is done, no need to waste it. Also, no layoffs!

Less time would be used in DLC development (perhaps more for an expansion) and yes, charge for it and deliver it electronically to save on costs.

I realize that all things come to an end and so will the world of Geralt, but there is no need to waste a good world while its still "hot"! ›››

Why do you (all) insist that they should charge for DLCs? CDPR has made a very bold statement to the whole industry by not making players pay for them. Changing that would mean that they've taken a step further away from customer respect and towards plain old money-making. This is one of the many reason why I love these people, a big one. So whatever they'll choose to do, charging for it would disappoint me quite a bit, but I trust them enough not to worry too much.
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13.03.2013 @ 20:08 #15

But why continue the adventures of Geralt? Let him rest, die or whatever. At one point the world becomes creatively stagnant, and a shell of its former self. Is this what we want to see happen to Geralt or his world.

It would be more exciting to start a new story with new characters.
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13.03.2013 @ 20:08 #16

peteo said:


I realize that all things come to an end and so will the world of Geralt, but there is no need to waste a good world while its still "hot"! ›››


The world of Geralt will not end but Geralt's adventures. It's not the same...

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13.03.2013 @ 20:09 #17

DLCs? - maybe
Do we need to pay for it? - I will.
Can you ever do more content than your modding community? - no way.

So I think it will be necessary for CDPR to release Red kit ASAP. And Release some dlc after some time to keep the audience attention to the game.
Keep game alive and community will do the rest.
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13.03.2013 @ 20:09 #18

Well if it was a "yes/no" question I would say no, because DLC's usually turn out to be nowhere near as good as the original game, even if the original game was great, look at DA: Origins, Awakening sucked some major ass (if you ask me). So yeah, that's my general opinion about DLC's. Buuuuuuuuuut, since we're talking about these guys here, and they DO kind of stand out from the other's game developers, if they can make DLC's as good as the original game... Hey, why not? But by that I mean it has to be as good as the whole game was, so it has to be as if I didn't play the game in a long time, and I wanted to play it again, but instead of that, I would play the DLC instead of the game again, I would like it on that scale, as good as the original game, or it shouldn't exist all. I know that may sound a bit too much demanding... "Who are you to request such a thing?" ...Well I've always said; If you're gonna do something, do it right or not at all until you're ready to do so, so...
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13.03.2013 @ 20:17 #19

"Why do you (all) insist that they should charge for DLCs? CDPR has made a very bold statement to the whole industry by not making players pay for them."

I respect CDPR for their customer service (thinking of their fans) but if they spend time and money to development DLC's or Expansion, they have a right to recoup their development costs and even make a profit!

Look at all the developers that have been laid off here in the US, I would be glad to pay for content, as long as it's not just plain crap! You cant stay in business if you are losing money!
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13.03.2013 @ 20:20 #20

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Well if it was a "yes/no" question I would say no, because DLC's usually turn out to be nowhere near as good as the original game, even if the original game was great, look at DA: Origins, Awakening sucked some major ass (if you ask me). So yeah, that's my general opinion about DLC's. Buuuuuuuuuut, since we're talking about these guys here, and they DO kind of stand out from the other's game developers, if they can make DLC's as good as the original game... Hey, why not? But by that I mean it has to be as good as the whole game was, so it has to be as if I didn't play the game in a long time, and I wanted to play it again, but instead of that, I would play the DLC instead of the game again, I would like it on that scale, as good as the original game, or it shouldn't exist all. I know that may sound a bit too much demanding... "Who are you to request such a thing?" ...Well I've always said; If you're gonna do something, do it right or not at all until you're ready to do so, so... ›››


We are all perfectionists in some way, but what kind of dlc we talking about?
Is it adds some quests or land or weapons/armours? Or, if we talk about some huge expansion, then I do agree with you.
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