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"The Virgin of Aedirn"?


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02.03.2013 @ 02:42 #1

This has always puzzled me.

Why is Saskia's alleged virginity even relevant? What does that have to do with anything at all?

Or does virgin mean something else?
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02.03.2013 @ 02:52 #2

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Weeeeeeeeeell fuck. I don't know how to answer that :P Isn't it supposed to be this mythical thing. Jeanne d'Arc sort of thing. People who are über special have traits that are uncommon for the rest of the population. Considering it was the dark ages, I doubt people stayed a virgin for long so when Saskia comes along everyone's like "shiiiieeeet son, how can that be!".

Also if you were part of the nobility or even part of a royal family, promiscuity would be frowned upon. Maybe? So her being a virgin might have been an indication of her belonging to a regal blood line?

Honestly, I'm just inferring shit from what I learned about the Middle Ages in school. I have no idea exactly why it's considered, within the context of the Witcher universe and lore, so special and fantastic. I can guess and I have my hunches but eh. Too vague to be considered facts. I'm sure someone will come along in due time and set the record straight :)
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02.03.2013 @ 02:54 #3

Jeanne d'Arc (Joan of Arc) reference.

"I am Jeanne, the Maid"

"Joan of Arc is one of the most renowned virgins in all of history and has frequently been called the "Virgin Warrior." For Joan remaining a virgin, or a "maid" as Joan preferred to be called, was an outward sign of her inward devotion to God. And so on..."
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02.03.2013 @ 03:14 #4

vivaxardas said:

Jeanne d'Arc (Joan of Arc) reference.

"I am Jeanne, the Maid"

"Joan of Arc is one of the most renowned virgins in all of history and has frequently been called the "Virgin Warrior." For Joan remaining a virgin, or a "maid" as Joan preferred to be called, was an outward sign of her inward devotion to God. And so on..." ›››


As well as one hell of an achievement for a woman who spent her adult life among soldiers :whistle:

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02.03.2013 @ 04:08 #5

People from back then tend to think women are disgusting if they did it,even with a married dude. There's a mysticism to it I guess, other popular virgin people were 'born of a virgin' and 'born from a slit in his mother's side'.

It's kind of like how gravure models from Japan get really unpopular when everyone finds out they have a boyfriend.
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02.03.2013 @ 04:51 #6

It's symbolic.
Female virginity, in the eyes of medieval and (sadly) even contemporary people is seen as representing purity and innocence. Something that the "chivalrous" always feel compelled to protect from invaders.

Saskia being the virgin of Aedirn is almost saying she's Aedirn- the country - 's virginity. The purity and innocence of the "motherland" that is threatened by the brutish Kaedweni invaders or a morally bankrupt nobility. A purity and innocence that men have to protect lest their conception of honor be offended.

It, pretty much with the dragonslayer myth, seems to be designed to move people at a primordial level. Sounds manipulative, and to an extent it is, but charisma is in essence knowing how to touch a cord in people's hearts.
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02.03.2013 @ 07:53 #7

Let's just hope she'll be back in W3, well at least I want that.
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02.03.2013 @ 12:54 #8

I bet 20e Geralt will be able to take the darkness away from her hole :)
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09.04.2013 @ 22:45 #9

When you cure saskia, she babbles about a mate and reveals fascination and undecidedness towards many races... Staying virgin for too long has unpredictable consequences later on in life, even for fictional characters! :thumbsup:

Also, about Joan, she was found virgin when examined that one time, before the king. We do not know (and do not need to know actually) if she remained a virgin afterwards. Also, she is reported from some sources to had been especially familiar with Gilles de Rais, that horrible man later known as the most legendary, murderous pervert in all of history, with the nickname Bluebeard. Some rumors and gossips from both that and modern era, wanted them to be very close friends... I cannot help but wonder. :coffee:

Oh, and i forgot THAT dream crystal, about saskia faqing in the barn with every peasant in the army, even making them quit dice poker in the prospect of that event!
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