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Why the sorcerers are so weak in the TW games


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21.02.2013 @ 04:17 #81

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Ever notice, when Roche and Geralt show up, Ves runs to Geralt, not to her longtime protector Roche? That one puzzles me.


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21.02.2013 @ 11:23 #82

Maerd said:

1. Most complaints about fighting Kayran were actually QTE and arcade scenario of the whole fight.

No, most complained about not being able to kill it. Ask Tommy for this, he has a long experience in fighting octupuses for others.

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2. The Beast was very hard if you didn't do any side quests but easy if you were completionist. Actually you could one shot him with aard, so you could run away and aard the beast till its stunned.

Wasn't implied that you HAVE TO finish all the side quests before? It's an rpg :)
You have not to explain to me how to beat it. I've played W1 say...hm.... 10-15 times? You have to explain to all those people coming here and whining "the Beast is too hard!!!"

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3. Koschey... Was it hard? Actually, that required you to notice that his strikes cause heavy breading and drink anti-bleeding potion. Or just run around and use igni till it's dead. In TW1 Geralt was faster than anyone, even barghests, I think.


Again, you have not to explain to me. Explain to the people who came here complaining :)/>

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4. First Letho fight is hard with certain builds. Though there are always traps to save the day. :)
5. Really hard 'boss' was a Dragon at the end if you didn't invest in certain skills and had no potions for buffing. But it's the end of the game, it's expected. ›››

I had zero problems in fighting both. Actually the Dragon was the hardest mostly fro the lack of space. Most of the people I've seen coming here blamed though more for Letho than for the dragon. In Act I isn't a piece a cake to be honest, no matter what kind of tricks you use it.

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@secondchildrenSorry to get off topic again.

Sorry to upset anyone. Maerd or I were in not in heated battle. I misunderstood him and we exchanged comments, but it was done in even tones. ›››

No problem I said for precaution :)

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21.02.2013 @ 12:30 #83

secondchildren said:

Most of the people I've seen coming here blamed though more for Letho than for the dragon. In Act I isn't a piece a cake to be honest, no matter what kind of tricks you use it. ›››


Here is the trick for you. :) Collect 20-30 traps from the forest and place them in the hidden room where you'll be fighting Letho during the rose of remembrance quest. That will be one shot win. Just don't overdo it, if Letho dies game may glitch. :D

You can do it differently too. Just run away and avoid Letho in the room and lay down claw traps. No need to be skilled in anything. Flawless victory. :peace:

Method #3. Make a 100 of grapeshot bombs. Spam them on Letho very fast...

That's off-topic again though. :)
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21.02.2013 @ 14:03 #84

Secondchildren: You will always have those who complain about difficulties of fights if those fights aren't cakewalk mode.

Quite frankly the Kayran is very easy. The difference between it and other fights is that it doesn't make much of a difference if you set it on easy vs other difficulties except that you can survive a few more hits.
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21.02.2013 @ 15:31 #85

Guy N said:

It was Dethmold's doing, not Henselt's; Henselt may have given the order, approved Dethmold's proposal, or merely given Dethmold a free hand. Dethmold did not need a fair fight to overcome them.

When Henselt is confronted about it, he doesn't regret it, but he was busy trying to make another little Unicorn. ›››


Dethmold is that powerful that he can overcome a large group of elite soldiers without having to kill any of them prior to hanging them?
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21.02.2013 @ 15:39 #86

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Dethmold is that powerful that he can overcome a large group of elite soldiers without having to kill any of them prior to hanging them? ›››


Of what use is an army if not to receive orders from his superior? If, with the consent of Henselt, Dethmold orders his men to reduce to a small group of men in direct numerical inequality and by surprise, why they were not going to get it?


Blue Stripe group is in Henselt's camp, who is preparing for a crude battle.... The disadvantage of the first versus the second is evident, especially if they aren't expecting a betrayal of this magnitude ...

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21.02.2013 @ 15:59 #87

Glaroug said:

She knows all too well what's under that turban. ›››


It's a chaperon, damnit! :P
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21.02.2013 @ 17:09 #88

Wichat said:

Of what use is an army if not to receive orders from his superior? If, with the consent of Henselt, Dethmold orders his men to reduce to a small group of men in direct numerical inequality and by surprise, why they were not going to get it?


Blue Stripe group is in Henselt's camp, who is preparing for a crude battle.... The disadvantage of the first versus the second is evident, especially if they aren't expecting a betrayal of this magnitude ... ›››


It still doesn't explain how Dethmold manages to hang each and every member of the Blue Stripes without having to kill any prior to doing so. Do you think each of them decided to just put their heads around a noose and that's it? Let's be honest, these guys shouldn't be going down without a fight.
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21.02.2013 @ 17:46 #89

I thought it wasn't just Dethmold, I thought it was Henselts men as well who helped.

Personally I'm glad the sorcerers are relatively weak, I'd rather have them fear death the same as anyone else, than have the 'super man' effect. What I love about the Witcher is it's dark tone where death can come for anyone and can happen easily, regardless of whether you're a peasant, a king, or a sorcerer.
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21.02.2013 @ 17:53 #90

Yeah, I think Dethmold didn't kill them all by himself. I imagine that the Blue Stripes were getting drunk in the camp tavern and then suddenly Dethmold's men suprise them during the feast and hang them.

And Ves hugging Geralt... I just can't imagine Vernon making such a gesture towards her and I think she knows this too.
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22.02.2013 @ 19:48 #91

Jobbert said:

Yeah, I think Dethmold didn't kill them all by himself. I imagine that the Blue Stripes were getting drunk in the camp tavern and then suddenly Dethmold's men suprise them during the feast and hang them.

And Ves hugging Geralt... I just can't imagine Vernon making such a gesture towards her and I think she knows this too. ›››


Unless they were all passed out, they would have still put up a fight. I don't care if they are outnumbered 10 to 1 or if they're plastered. These are the types who would rather die than surrender.
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22.02.2013 @ 21:10 #92

If my memory does not betray me, even Yennefer was beat by Zoltan with some lead-balls =D
And Dorregeray, as powerful as he might have been, got spat on his shoes and ridiculed, unable to do anything because of fear of being cut down in this close range.
So yeah, while the sorcerers are undoubtly powerful, a simply nobody could easily kill them, given the chance. Close Combat is their Kryptonite =D
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