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PM I loved the witcher 2 on the xbox, it is my favourite game of all time and i have been watching the GameInformer interviews with interest. I would just like to say in the days of publishers bullying good developers and forcing them to release sub standard games that do not please the fans, CDPR you are a breath of fresh air and it is so amazing and brilliant to watch your interviews about how you are independent and how you actually do listen and support your consumer base.
You are by far the best and most fair gaming developer in the business. Keep up the good work and thankyou for being so honest and fair with us fans.
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Very refreshing
19.02.2013 @ 15:48 #3
AhmadMetallic said:
With all the love I have for CDPR, you can't mention godly developers without putting Valve on the throne dude 
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››› DRM-free, mature, story-rich games that do not underestimate our intelligence, excellent writing and character direction, plus they make the games nobody else makes, closer to the classic RPG's than the plethora of dating and hiking simulators out there. In my opinion, CD Projekt are the indisputable kings.
If you don't mind DRM and love shooters, then maybe Valve can be king.
Facio, Voco, Ferre.
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
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19.02.2013 @ 16:09 #8
I am a PC gamer and I fail to see why Valve is so great. Please enlighten me.
Facio, Voco, Ferre.
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
19.02.2013 @ 16:15 #9
I think people like steam and their deals which is something to do with valve i think? As i never game on PC i do not know but also that and a game called half life was really good apparently? I am so glad CDPR decided to bring out its games on consoles too now otherwise i would never have experienced their great games and nice attitude towards fans. Though their games are far too brilliant and far too complex and interesting for the average console gamer probably. It is a sad thought when you see these guys who make amazing games and do well for themselves but its sad when you see their games sales versus call of duty or gears of war etc.. Its pathetic when you know CDPR quality of game is so much higher and the stories so much more intersting. Oh well.
19.02.2013 @ 16:23 #10
DonSwingKing said:
Valve is a pretty amazing developer, that is for sure, but you cannot compare CDPR and Valve. They make totally different games. ›››
I wasn't talking about the games, the thread is about developers who aren't the bitches of any publishers, who support their consumer base, do fair business, who do their own thing, design games really well and with heart, give their fans a massive value of entertainment and have a lot of good will.
I can't even begin to list the things that make Valve the emperor of PC good will and free player service.
Steam singlehandedly boosted the sales of PC games and hardware tenfold with its deals and holiday sales. If it weren't for Steam facilitating PC game installations and dirt cheap sales I bet the platform would have become incredibly niche with a tiny user base. The community section of Steam has allowed clans and gaming communities to organize online games and easily communicate. Their workshop increased the amount of modders and map designers as well as mod downloads. They gave us all the free DLC for Portal 2 in the world by giving us the level editor!
Team Fortress 2 was one of the most popular multiplayer shooters and they made it free to play. They're working on a Steam box that will solve all the troubles of hooking up a PC to a TV, and they're working on revolutionizing the input devices.
I for one love mouse, keyboard and monitor, but the fact that they care so much about making all the options easy is just amazing.
Valve is god man.
19.02.2013 @ 16:25 #11
TezJaggs, I think it's awesome you can clearly see and understand one of the major things PC gamers criticize about console games/gamers. Most console games are very arcade-y, and sadly the industry appeals mostly to them which results in games being progressively more steamlined. We used to have very elaborate and satisfying PC games before, and now they are a minority.
About Valve, I played the first Half-Life back in 1998 and, while I liked the atmosphere and the general story, I was never a fan of first person shooters so I put it down. I also tried Blue Shift and Opposing Force. I personally really enjoyed both Portals, those are probably my favorite Valve games. But honestly, all they seem to make are shooters. Good ones, but shooters. And even though they make good ones, we're already saturated with first person shooters.
Steam on the other hand is a service I personally like. I don't praise or adore Steam, in fact I am slightly bitter towards it. I used to buy games that only required a simple CD-check to play, not permanent Internet connection. And yes, I know that you can play offline, but the fact remains that these games must be activated and you have limitations on how to use your software. In fact, you are renting these games from Steam. At any moment, Valve *could* decide you should no longer have access to the media you payed for. I like Steam sales as much as the next person, but that doesn't mean I think it's great. I see it as just another online video game store, from which I can conveniently download content and skip shipping altogether, at the cost of additional limitations.
So, as a PC gamer who started playing in the 90's, I still do not see why Valve is *so* great.
About Valve, I played the first Half-Life back in 1998 and, while I liked the atmosphere and the general story, I was never a fan of first person shooters so I put it down. I also tried Blue Shift and Opposing Force. I personally really enjoyed both Portals, those are probably my favorite Valve games. But honestly, all they seem to make are shooters. Good ones, but shooters. And even though they make good ones, we're already saturated with first person shooters.
Steam on the other hand is a service I personally like. I don't praise or adore Steam, in fact I am slightly bitter towards it. I used to buy games that only required a simple CD-check to play, not permanent Internet connection. And yes, I know that you can play offline, but the fact remains that these games must be activated and you have limitations on how to use your software. In fact, you are renting these games from Steam. At any moment, Valve *could* decide you should no longer have access to the media you payed for. I like Steam sales as much as the next person, but that doesn't mean I think it's great. I see it as just another online video game store, from which I can conveniently download content and skip shipping altogether, at the cost of additional limitations.
So, as a PC gamer who started playing in the 90's, I still do not see why Valve is *so* great.
Facio, Voco, Ferre.
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
19.02.2013 @ 16:27 #12
.Volsung. said:
I am a PC gamer and I fail to see why Valve is so great. Please enlighten me. ›››
Seriously .? I mean I love CDPR but saying you don't know about Valve is not cool bro . Valve is the reason PC gaming is so awesome . Steam is the biggest digital distribution platform for PC . Windows 8 from MS will not support 3rd party softwares in the future . Everything will be signed by Microsoft then it will be launched on PC . Open enviroment of the PC will be finished in that OS , it will all be like consoles , No choice of freedom . Valve went ahead and launched steam for Linux . Even if MS tries to destroy PC gaming , people will switch to Linux and MS will loose their customers and their policies will bite them their own ass . On other hand Half Life 2 from valve wins game of the decade every year .
CDPR are my favourite developers out there . I love GOG and use it more than steam but being a PC gamer and not knowing about vavle is not cool at all . EA tried to buy valve but Gabe said he would like see valve to die than selling it . If he was money hungry then it would be a huge lose for PC gaming .
19.02.2013 @ 16:30 #13
AhmadMetallic said:
I can't even begin to list the things that make Valve the emperor of PC good will and free player service. ›››
#%&$#*&*^!!!!!! NO!
Valve are awful, their customer service is awful, their monopolist practices are awful, their DRM bloatware is awful, their forced EULAs are awful, they also stopped making games and just sell hats now.
19.02.2013 @ 16:31 #14
Umair2012 said:
Seriously .? I mean I love CDPR but saying you don't know about Valve is not cool bro . Valve is the reason PC gaming is so awesome . Steam is the biggest digital distribution platform for PC . Windows 8 from MS will not support 3rd party softwares in the future . Everything will be signed by Microsoft then it will be launched on PC . Open enviroment of the PC will be finished in that OS , it will all be like consoles , No choice of freedom . Valve went ahead and launched steam for Linux . Even if MS tries to destroy PC gaming , people will switch to Linux and MS will loose their customers and their policies will bite them their own ass . On other hand Half Life 2 from valve wins game of the decade every year .
CDPR are my favourite developers out there . I love GOG and use it more than steam but being a PC gamer and not knowing about vavle is not cool at all . EA tried to buy valve but Gabe said he would like see valve to die than selling it . If he was money hungry then it would be a huge lose for PC gaming . ›››
CDPR are my favourite developers out there . I love GOG and use it more than steam but being a PC gamer and not knowing about vavle is not cool at all . EA tried to buy valve but Gabe said he would like see valve to die than selling it . If he was money hungry then it would be a huge lose for PC gaming . ›››
I know about Valve. I am not impressed. See above post.
Honestly I think CDPR has done more to defy publishers than Valve or anyone else. The Witcher 2 DRM-free from day one, and after the first patch for physical copies? That's something.
Facio, Voco, Ferre.
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
19.02.2013 @ 16:36 #15
Kodaemon said:
#%&$#*&*^!!!!!! NO!/>
Valve are awful, their customer service is awful, their monopolist practices are awful, their DRM bloatware is awful, their forced EULAs are awful, they also stopped making games and just sell hats now. ›››
/>Valve are awful, their customer service is awful, their monopolist practices are awful, their DRM bloatware is awful, their forced EULAs are awful, they also stopped making games and just sell hats now. ›››
You already sound unreasonable, but I'll bite.
Tell me this, what would the PC as a gaming platform be like today, this second, if Steam didn't exist and Valve didn't do what they do?
The first thing that comes to mind is splitting the sales of any PC game in half, because Steam literally is responsible for a huge number of people building PCs.
Your beloved Witcher 2 would have sold 200 thousand copies less.
19.02.2013 @ 16:46 #17
AhmadMetallic said:
You already sound unreasonable, but I'll bite.
Tell me this, what would the PC as a gaming platform be like today, this second, if Steam didn't exist and Valve didn't do what they do?
The first thing that comes to mind is splitting the sales of any PC game in half, because Steam literally is responsible for a huge number of people building PCs.
Your beloved Witcher 2 would have sold 200 thousand copies less. ›››
Tell me this, what would the PC as a gaming platform be like today, this second, if Steam didn't exist and Valve didn't do what they do?
The first thing that comes to mind is splitting the sales of any PC game in half, because Steam literally is responsible for a huge number of people building PCs.
Your beloved Witcher 2 would have sold 200 thousand copies less. ›››
So, ignoring the rather absurd argument that people build PCs specifically for Steam, your basic argument boils down to "Steam is great, because it sells PC games". Wow.
19.02.2013 @ 16:54 #18
monotoy said:
hl/hl2/portal/portal2 
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/> ››› Umm... you didn't read my other posts, did you?
I said I played HL back in 1998, and I actually like both Portals. Still, I don't think Valve is as impressive as people want it to be. I think modern gamers are simply enthralled by having "all their games in one launcher" and having achievements.
But honestly I think we are derailing this thread. Let's either stop or move it some place else.
OP was happy about TW2, and I think that's awesome.
Facio, Voco, Ferre.
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
PC does not equal Windows. Personal computers run many different operating systems, like GNU/Linux and, why not, Windows. PC games should be available for all major platforms. Let's not be handcuffed and tied to one vendor. Utilize standard, cross-platform technologies!
** The Witcher IRC Channel (unofficial) ** irc://irc.xertion.org/TheWitcher ** Instant webchat: http://mibbit.com/#T...irc.xertion.org
19.02.2013 @ 16:57 #19
Kodaemon said:
So, ignoring the rather absurd argument that people build PCs specifically for Steam, your basic argument boils down to "Steam is great, because it sells PC games". Wow. ›››
No I gave a few other reasons concerning Valve's services and user-friendly tools, but yes, that is one of the main reasons why you should be thankful for steam, it sells PC games. If it didn't exist, PC sales would have been in a really tough spot, so tough that some publishers would choose to exclude the PC from their future games. And the thousands of console players who built PCs in the last 2 years would've stuck to their consoles if it wasn't for Steam's ridiculous offers and the fact that you can buy and install a game in two clicks.
And if you don't realize how important sales are then you're just unrealistic my friend. Why do you think Witcher 3 is gonna be so huge? Because Witcher 2 reviewed well? No, it's because it sold well.
And there's no need to downvote me just because you seem to obsessively hate Valve.
