[IceEpicX]

What do you think,what choices would Geralt do in a way that is totally non-politic and totally in Geralts personal interests and goals.If you ask me the goal Geralt wants is clearing his name and then going back on the path with Triss without meddeling in politics.I didn't read the books but in my opinion it would be:

-Spare Arayn:There is no point in killing him,Geralt isn't a murderer,especially he doesn't murder rebelius little boys.

-Give Ioreveth the sword:There is no honor in not giving a chance for someone to rightfully fight.

-Ioreveth Path:It is the fastest way to get to Letho,kill him and get to the witcher path.

-Spare Stennis:Geralt doesn't murder kings,he is about the clear his name,this would be a bad decision,Geralt doesn't get involved in revolutions,he didn't help Aryan against Foltest,didn't he?

-Save Triss:Geralt doesn't care about Saskia nor Vergen or the Scoia'Tel,He just wants to save his girl and preserve peace and get on with his life.

-Spare Saskia,Sile and Ioreveth:Geralt isn't a murderer nor a judge of lives.

EDIT:Spare Letho:He is Geralt's friend and Geralt isn't interested in politics,he had no reason to kill Letho.

What do you think,have some of you read the books and maybe know Geralt better,I am really interested in making a save for The witcher 3 that is totally Geralt witchery neutral personal style.

[gab961111]

Ioverth path is the true one because in Flotsam, Roche clearly wants to mess with Loredo first while Ioverth states than he wants to go in Vergen as soon as possible.

[arkblazer]

Agree on most except the last one, by then geralt would remember that Letho was his friend and he wouldn't kill a fellow witcher out of revenge. besides his name was already cleared, letho had confessed to the kings.


also personally i had saved saskia but i did because i already knew triss would live and i personally though that, subconsciously, saskia reminded geralt of ciri, so he would have a soft spot for her.

[BarisM]

I think he would go with Iorveth, yes. At first it seems like the shortcut to Letho and Triss. And he can't know at that point that he'll be closer to the kingslayers if he went with Roche. And if on Iorveth path the decision to save Triss may be easier. I think this decision here is more about the player than Geralt though. It's a game mechanic rather than pure storytelling. You could argue that friends come first or that Geralt will care about the one of the last remaining dragon getting killed or used as a puppet. (I do think that he'd care more about the dragon part rather than the Upper Aedirn part.) I disagree with the Letho choice. With his memories coming back and his name already cleared, killing Letho at that point serves no purpose. And who is Geralt to judge anyone when he himself is neck deep in politics whether he likes it or not?

[Random drowner]

IceEpicX said:

What do you think,what choices would Geralt do in a way that is totally non-politic and totally in Geralts personal interests and goals.If you ask me the goal Geralt wants is clearing his name and then going back on the path with Triss without meddeling in politics.I didn't read the books but in my opinion it would be:

-Spare Arayn:There is no point in killing him,Geralt isn't a murderer,especially he doesn't murder rebelius little boys.

-Give Ioreveth the sword:There is no honor in not giving a chance for someone to rightfully fight.

-Ioreveth Path:It is the fastest way to get to Letho,kill him and get to the witcher path.

-Spare Stennis:Geralt doesn't murder kings,he is about the clear his name,this would be a bad decision,Geralt doesn't get involved in revolutions,he didn't help Aryan against Foltest,didn't he?

-Save Triss:Geralt doesn't care about Saskia nor Vergen or the Scoia'Tel,He just wants to save his girl and preserve peace and get on with his life.

-Spare Saskia,Sile and Ioreveth:Geralt isn't a murderer nor a judge of lives.

-Kill Letho:He had to clear his name

What do you think,have some of you read the books and maybe know Geralt better,I am really interested in making a save for The witcher 3 that is totally Geralt witchery neutral personal style. ›››

I based my W2 Geralt on who I played him in W1 and what information the character came over about who he was before. I have also read some of the book stuff to "simulate" my Geralts memory of who he was.

And my personal Geralt fully agree with your list.

-Aryan is spared because he can be talked down, is honourable and surrender. My Geralt appreciates the extremely rare breeds honourable noblemen represents.

-Iorveth is given the sword because 1) My Geralt believes in "fair play" or balancing things our when he finds it appropriate, 2) Does not like to be used without his consent in political schemes , 3) tries to be as neutral as possible.
4)When you do not know what is really going on, better with going with what you know. Geralt has no reason to think Iorveth will go after him if given his sword.

-The path of Iorveth seems to lead after Triss and Letho. My Geralt is also interested in getting more intel from Iorveth and he also hopes he can influence the Scoia'tael down a "gentler" path if at all possible. He also thinks he has some pull with them after helping Yaevinn and Toruviel.

-Stennis is spared. Lynchings are generally a bad idea. Not enough evidence against the royal a-hole. Geralt is not a Jude. Saskia can pass judgement if she so wish.

-save Triss. Geralts loyalty is first and formost with his friends.

-Spare Saskia,Sile and help Ioreveth. No Geralt is not a murderer nor a judge of lives. As long as there is life there is hope.

-Letho has sadly gone to far and can not be allowed to leave with his life, and Geralt gave Roche his word that he would "go after him" (take him down). My Geralt thinks that giving some his word is a serious thing and you can not allow a fellow witcher to play international-assassin in service of any Royal house.
But he is sad to do it and is thankful towards Letho and his gang for taking care of Yen. If Letho had saved Triss, well, then the scale would have tipped and Geralt would probably have let him go.

[Babli]

I dont think that fleeing and allying with terrorrist, who worked with assassin of Foltest and Demawend, would be in Geralts best interest, considering that he is still known as an assassin by everyone except Blue Stripes.

[guipit]

-Spare Arayn: No reason to kill him

-Punch Iorveth in the throat: At the time he just seemed like another Yaevinn to me.

-Ioreveth Path: Triss was taken to Vergen so that's where I'm heading. I was thinking it'd be easier since Roche will distract Loredo but it wasn't the case. (they should've really time skipped to midnight when the mission starts)

-Spare Stennis: Kinda divided by this. In the chaos Saskia may be able to seize power in Aedirn but my Geralt isn't the type to take chances like that.

-Save Triss: I would've wanted to hand Philippa over to Iorveth first and then part ways that's how I imagined it happening. I imagine Iorveth found her made her open it and got fucked up by the golem. Aside from Triss being a dear friend she'd also be great at helping catch the kingslayer and calming down things at the Conclave.

-Spare Saskia,Sile and Ioreveth: I believed Sile and the Lodge's intentions. I don't really see how they'd be worse than the current monarchs.

-Kill Letho: This is really complicated. The tipping point for me was that I owed Roche for saving my life twice. The war was probably invetable even without him and he might have believed that prolonging the existence of the North will cost more suffering in the long run. Geralt understood that witchers don't have a place in this world and Letho adapted a new purpose but it seemed like a perversion, a witcher turned into a hired killer.

[cmdr_silverbolt]

IceEpicX said:

What do you think,what choices would Geralt do in a way that is totally non-politic and totally in Geralts personal interests and goals.If you ask me the goal Geralt wants is clearing his name and then going back on the path with Triss without meddeling in politics.I didn't read the books but in my opinion it would be:

-Spare Arayn:There is no point in killing him,Geralt isn't a murderer,especially he doesn't murder rebelius little boys.

-Give Ioreveth the sword:There is no honor in not giving a chance for someone to rightfully fight.

-Ioreveth Path:It is the fastest way to get to Letho,kill him and get to the witcher path.

-Spare Stennis:Geralt doesn't murder kings,he is about the clear his name,this would be a bad decision,Geralt doesn't get involved in revolutions,he didn't help Aryan against Foltest,didn't he?

-Save Triss:Geralt doesn't care about Saskia nor Vergen or the Scoia'Tel,He just wants to save his girl and preserve peace and get on with his life.

-Spare Saskia,Sile and Ioreveth:Geralt isn't a murderer nor a judge of lives.

-Kill Letho:He had to clear his name

What do you think,have some of you read the books and maybe know Geralt better,I am really interested in making a save for The witcher 3 that is totally Geralt witchery neutral personal style. ›››

Honor is a social tool devised by men to keep other men in check, or at least that is the way this concept is treated in most High Fantasy works based in medieval settings. Honor can also be a divine quality acquired by having certain characteristics, namely Pity and Mercy, imbued by Higher powers, which is how it is portrayed in Tolkien works.

Geralt is amoral in that he does not subscribe to the moral systems of his society, and has his own withcer's code. As per that code, he may not accept the concept of honor as it is defined in his society, and probably does not waste brain cells on what is/is not honorable. Therefore, he would not return Iorveth's because of some desire to do what is "honorable".

Geralt returns the sword because he does not care one way or the other about Iorveth or Roche, and at the moment he just saw an elf who needed something to defend against an attack. It was a flight or fight situation, and at these times people do not think about honor, they think about survival.

That said, I agree with most of the decisions in the OP, but not with the reasons as stated.

I also do not think Letho will die because if Geralt plans to return to the Path, then he does not care about keeping his word with Roche. Roche knows that Geralt is not the Kingslayer, so Geralt does not need to kill Letho to clear his name. At the end of Iorveth's path, Roche is on his way to the Yaruga to confirm the advance of the Black March (my own term for it). The assassinations of the kings has become a minor point of interest for all parties concerned in light of the Black March, so I don't expect any serious problems on that end for Geralt or Letho in the next game.

[IceEpicX]

Cool responses guys,I now agree about Letho,I usually let him live anyways,except in the pro anti Nilfguard save file,where he has to die.He is Geralt's friend and has done nothing wrong to him.

[Random drowner]

cmdr_flashheart said:

Honor is a social tool devised by men to keep other men in check, or at least that is the way this concept is treated in most High Fantasy works based in medieval settings. Honor can also be a divine quality acquired by having certain characteristics, namely Pity and Mercy, imbued by Higher powers, which is how it is portrayed in Tolkien works.

Geralt is amoral in that he does not subscribe to the moral systems of his society, and has his own withcer's code. As per that code, he may not accept the concept of honor as it is defined in his society, and probably does not waste brain cells on what is/is not honorable. Therefore, he would not return Iorveth's because of some desire to do what is "honorable".

Geralt returns the sword because he does not care one way or the other about Iorveth or Roche, and at the moment he just saw an elf who needed something to defend against an attack. It was a flight or fight situation, and at these times people do not think about honor, they think about survival.

That said, I agree with most of the decisions in the OP, but not with the reasons as stated.

I also do not think Letho will die because if Geralt plans to return to the Path, then he does not care about keeping his word with Roche. Roche knows that Geralt is not the Kingslayer, so Geralt does not need to kill Letho to clear his name. At the end of Iorveth's path, Roche is on his way to the Yaruga to confirm the advance of the Black March (my own term for it). The assassinations of the kings has become a minor point of interest for all parties concerned in light of the Black March, so I don't expect any serious problems on that end for Geralt or Letho in the next game. ›››

My Geralt appreciate honour in other people if it keeps them from terrorizing, killing and abusing people who are more or less decent or even helpful or kind. Ideas that keep men of power in check is often a good thing if you ask my Geralt, even if they are just ideas and ideals.

[Amelia Hunter]

I have played the first part of the game just like you:

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-Spare Arayn:There is no point in killing him,Geralt isn't a murderer,especially he doesn't murder rebelius little boys.

-Give Ioreveth the sword:There is no honor in not giving a chance for someone to rightfully fight.

-Ioreveth Path:It is the fastest way to get to Letho,kill him and get to the witcher path.

-Spare Stennis:Geralt doesn't murder kings,he is about the clear his name,this would be a bad decision,Geralt doesn't get involved in revolutions,he didn't help Aryan against Foltest,didn't he?

But from here I made different choices. First of all, I chose to save Saskia, not Triss, but this is personal: I liked Iorveth and wanted to save his woman for him, and I didn't really like Triss. So I did everything to save Saskia, and Letho saved Triss for me. After this I couldn't kill Letho -- because he saved Triss. And for some other reasons, too.

I have read the books and Geralt from the books wouldn't do what I did. But well, I like the elves and in all my games I try to help them. So in The Witcher 1 I stood by Yayevinn, and in The Witcher 2 I stood by Iorveth. I am sure I'll do the same in The Witcher 3

[Kallelinski]

SPARE ARYAN: He survives through to Chapter 3 and La Vallete Castle remains Temerian.
I don't see any reason why Geralt should kill him, Geralt has no grudge against him and just wants to end his bodyguard job.

HELP ROCHE: Iorveth is captured and a festival occurs in Flotsam. Margot dies. Derae lives.
I would rather say not helping Iorveth, Geralt wouldn't easily give a weapon to Iorveth, a famous criminal. Iorveth could do more damage as i think (and he does, if you give him the sword).

CHOOSE IORVETH: Abandons the Temerian cause for the Pontar Valley. Dethmold is now guaranteed to die.
Zoltan convinced me and i think Geralt would rather listen to a friend.

SAVE MOTTLE: Save the elves from the tower to get sexytime with Mottle later on, and earn Iorveth's gratitude. Loredo sells Flotsam to Kaedwen.
Saving the innocent seems more likely.

LYNCH STENNIS: Stennis dies, Aedirn collapses into anarchy, but Saskia's new nation is unopposed.
I didn't lynch him, i was neutral and did what i could do to clarify the whole incident, but i couldn't convince the mob/nobles of his innocence or guilt, so i didn't intervene.

SAVE TRISS (Iorveth): The Nilfgaardian plot is destroyed, with the death of Renuald, Shilard and their entire party. The Council and Conclave is successfully restored, assuring a strong Northern network of magic users. Temeria is partitioned or dissolved. Iorveth is horribly wounded.
She is my friend, even though i don't like her behaviour and motvies towards Geralt, she is still a friend and you don't leave a friend in the lurch.

SAVE SILE: Sile tells you Yennefer's location and departs. The Lodge retains a strong member.
Why should Geralt let her die? Sure, she was behind the assasination, but killing for revenge? Also Geralt's goal is Yennefer, everything else is secondary.

DISENCHANT SASKIA (Iorveth-Go With Philippa): Saskia is freed of the spell, the Lodge's plans ruined and their captive unshackled. The Pontar Valley stays strong and is truly free of outside control. Geralt earns the gratitude of Saskia and Iorveth alike.
If you save Iorveth in the last part of the game, you find the magical dagger at one of the soldiers, what if you or Iorveth can still disenchant Saskia in Witcher 3, because you found it?

SPARE DRAGON (Roche-All): The Lodge retains its weapon, whose sole purpose is to serve their bidding as a weapon of destruction given the fall of Vergen.
Obvious, Geralt doesn't kill the dragon, doesn't matter if he knows who that dragon is or not.

SPARE LETHO: Foltest gets no justice and Geralt breaks his promise to Roche. The School of the Viper may spring up as a powerful tool against the Wild Hunt, or Nilfgaard may try to use Letho more in the future. Letho and Geralt settle their debt of friendship and blood.
I think Geralt would understand his motives and perhaps would have do the same as he, after all Geralt was already hired by an king and killed in his name humans.


I think Geralt's inducement and motives change dramatically with the progressing story. First he is political motivated, he helps Foltest, but fails, so he wants to clear his name and find the real culprit. But the more the story progress, the more he gets involved in the humans vs. elves matter and before being even aware of it, he has to take a position in this.
Finally and with regaining his memories back, he is more and more personal motivated, his friends and escpecially Yennefer come to the fore, they are his priority and the whole political thing gets more and more neglected, like "i did what i could, so don't judge me if i am following my own personal affairs now".

[Wichat]

Kallelinski said:

HELP ROCHE: Iorveth is captured and a festival occurs in Flotsam. Margot dies. Derae lives.
I would rather say not helping Iorveth, Geralt wouldn't easily give a weapon to Iorveth, a famous criminal. Iorveth could do more damage as i think (and he does, if you give him the sword).
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I've choosed Roche's path many times as Iorveth's one, and only ONE time I'd not give him the sword. First, the Geralt I know doesn't bear ambushs; second, he cannot tolerating let die a man (or woman whatever he/she has did or not) who, despite having a high price on his head, trusts you such that he stands disarmed before a stranger to confront an enemy who want him dead. (the threat of hidden men pointing their arrows Geralt is not enough to intimidate my Geralt (Geralt one I know from books)). And even Geralt reproaches Roches for having used him and follow him in secret.


The level of crime in Iorveth or Roche does not condition my Geralt simply because he try to be neutral and is intended to find Triss. So both ways are equally good me. Geralt has no sympathy for any of the two (although Iorveth would kill him and Zoltan in the clearing, Roche does the same if Geralt does not accept help in dungeons), at least in the begining of game. Noone of both, Roche-Iorveth, are so good or so bad, CDPR give us the same numbers of reason for choosing one or other.

[Kallelinski]

I guess knowing the outcome of something is influencing my opinion on this.

I didn't give him the sword, because just seconds before meeting Letho, he threatens to kill me, if i do something dubious, so i didn't really trust him much, i guess.

About the route, yeah, that's tricky. But I would still favor Vergen, because Zoltan convinced me so, i personally would rather go with Roche, because i thought i had more chances to find Triss with the help of a king, but unfortunately Henselt wasn't really a big help. While on the other side Philippa can really help you and you also stick to your friends, that seems more appropriate for Geralt in my opinion.

Might to add that i didn't like neither Iorveth nor Roche, both act for their own goals and doesn't do me a favor, while Zoltan and Dandelion actually try to help me with my decision.

[Bloth]

Two motives: Clear my name of the kingslaying charges and help the children of Foltest, the man I failed.

Spare Aryan - I'll achieve my goals with as little bloodshed as possible.
Knock out Iorveth - Roche is my proven ally, if I also help him to catch a notorious killer all the better.
Roche's path - It is the easiest and fastest path to get to Letho and Triss, whom Roche is pursuing, and we'll not have to lie low dodging river patrols or fear which port to pull in at for supplies on the way upriver. Roche's ship is far faster than the prison barge as well.
Save Iorveth - The Elf may be able to help get some of the dwarves away from Vergen.
Spare Henselt - Wouldn't let Roche do that to himself, wouldn't let the people of Kaedwen be engulfed in a brutal struggle for the throne.
Save Anais and give to Natalis - I failed her father, I owe her and Triss can look after herself. Dispense with my first motive.
Sile - Nothing to do with me, I satnd and watch.
Saesenthesis - I don't kill Dragons.
Letho - Drink, chat and part, nothing changes with his death. He allready made sure that my name was cleared in the murdering of kings affair, so my second motive is dispensed.

[AstroCat]

Just finished the game and here were my choices based on how I RP'ed my Geralt:

-Spare Arayn: No reason to kill him, the battle for him was lost.

-Give Ioreveth the sword: I took a somewhat pro oppressed non-human stance even in Witcher 1.

-Ioreveth Path: Same as above.

-Spare Stennis: I was not ok with the mob lynching especially without proof.

-Save Triss: She is my main lady and my friend, thus I choose her.

-Spare Saskia: Here is what is weird for me, 1) she looked like she was in pain and was going to die, so I thought it was mostly a mercy killing and if not what kind of "revenge" destruction would Philippa create with her still under her control. I now know about the dagger part at the end, but you don't know that when you first get to the dragon, so I reluctantly killed her.

-Sile: No real reason to kill her, plus she shared useful information.

-Ioreveth: I developed a certain liking to him and his cause, so I definitely wanted him to live.

-Kill Letho: This was real tough, I almost let him go, and I still might load it back up and have a save that does that. It just felt he'd gone too far, becoming almost a "monster" himself. I know it's tough and I agree with a lot of people's motivations in letting him live.

Fun game with some great choices!

[Guy N'wah]

Aryan lives. He's just a boy. He knows enough about honor to risk his neck for it, but not enough to know when not to.

Iorveth gets punched in the throat. Geralt knows about the Blue Stripes arbalest men, and he sees they got the drop on the Scoia'tael. He's not going to give those trigger-happy whoresons any excuse to imagine he has pointy ears.

Geralt sides with Roche. After he sees the intrigues going on in Flotsam and the party Loredo throws, he sizes up Loredo for a mangier rat than Letho, Roche, and Iorveth put together, and he goes in with Roche's plan to eliminate him. After the business with Moril, the baby, and Seherim, he feels vindicated.

He rescues Iorveth at Vergen. He does not wish to see the nonhumans destroyed, or see the Kaedweni profit by it. Maybe he also feels a little guilty about letting Zoltan, Saskia, and Iorveth face the Kaedweni without his aid.

He lets Roche kill Henselt. It's man to man between them, not a question of whether Kaedwen needs its king. And he has no reason to argue mercy for a man who raped a woman who ran to him for protection. When he finds out this revenge has done Roche no good, he regrets his decision.

At Loc Muinne, he denounces both Kimbolt and Maravel. They're rats of different color, but a rat is still a rat, and Geralt has no use for nobles of any kind.

He rescues Triss and lets Roche go after Anais alone. Roche is a capable man; he can manage. Triss is helpless. Even if he's having doubts about Triss being his true love, she's still the best friend he has in this place.

He spares Sile. Sile can't hurt him, and he has pressing business with a dragon that can. Since he gets information from her, he doesn't regret doing so.

He spares the dragon. Witchers don't kill dragons. Even ones under the spell of a dangerous sorceress.

Finally, he spares Letho. He cares little about whether Letho will continue to work for Nilfgaard, he has a new cause that Letho has given him information toward, and he knows Letho's death would be wasted.

And then there's the ladybug. The ladybug tells him more about where he is going, and why, than all his conversations with Triss and Letho put together. Your true love is out there, Geralt. She needs you. This way.

[AstroCat]

I went back and spared the Dragon, felt more in-line with my Geralt, and I made a save with sparing Letho... hmmm still not 100% convinced that is the "right" thing to do. Fun choices like this is one of the things that makes the Witcher so good.

[Glaroug]

This was defiantly an emotional play through, the best and will likely remain the most memorable. Full of happiness, anger, hate laughter and grief.

-Spare Arayn: I am only here as Foltest's prisoner protector. I don;t give a Damn about Aryan, but there is certainly no reason to kill him. Easier to let him live. Mail and plate really do a number on my poor sword.

-Give Ioreveth the sword: hard to get info on Letho with a dead Iorveth. But more importanlt, that is just low.

-Ioreveth Path: I will march through hell and back to rescue Triss, the woman I love. Yes love. Sorry Yen.

-KILL PRINCE PENIS: I know there are those here who really hate folks like Henselt, but trust me, there is no more FOUL and DISGUSTING charter than this little shit. Saskia risked her life for this prick, and he won;t even give a little of his blood to help her. I was so digusted and actually engraged with the filth that came from his mouth, it was all I could do not to jump inside the game and "KEE-YAH!!!!!!" I fed him to the peasants and by god was it worth it.

-Save Triss: Fuck you Phillipa. I hope you rot in hell.

-Watch Sile pop: Bye bye bitch, though its a lot better than you deserve.

-Spare Saskia: As Geralt put it, she a symbo of pure good. And anti-Phillipa. Spare her even if it means a potential weapon for Phillipa. Its worth it even if there is just a slim chance to save her.

Kill that Bitch Cynthia: Almost as satisfying as watching Stennis die. THIS IS FOR TRISS YOU FILTHY __________(insert foulest Dwarven swear word) and your mother two. Phillipa was right, you should have been aborted.

Kill Letho: I don't care tht you were "gentle" with Triss. You caused this ugly mess. Triss almost died you giant son of a bitch. You'll answer for that.

Save Iorveth: Like Roach, I believe him a good man at his core. I wish him well. I almost had a stroke when I saw him on the cart.

*I love reading ya'll's decisions. I hope they are not thrown in the bin in the TW3. I really want know Iorveth's fate. I sincerely hope I meet Phillipa again. Loosing her eyes is only child's play to what I have in store for her...