[Dymblos]

Anyone know which ending will fallow Witcher 3 if u start a New Game
Not Using the save game of a previous Witcher 2 Ending

[IceEpicX]

I Think Roche path becouse It is the neutral run
I Tink Aryan La vallete dead becouse if you want the best outcome(he alive) play the game.
Same thing with Henselt.
I'm not sure about the Triss Anais thing.

We will just have to wait and see,regardlessy I am going to go Ioreveth's path,it just gives better results.

[Costin Moroianu]

I think it's difficult to say honestly. They might just go down the DA2 route where you have to pick between several different endings of TW2 instead of just having one like in TW1 to TW2.

But if there was just one, as much as it pains me to admit this probably Iorveth path with Triss rescued, Iorveth left prisoner at the hands of the soldiers, Letho, Loredo, Saskia, Stennis, Aryan killed and Flotsam enduring the Pogrom.

Now I am not saying this out some bias, my CANNON is Roche with Letho, Saskia, Henselt alive, Anais saved and given to Radovid, but considering what choices they picked in TW1 for the new game run of TW2 then it would be expected.

If they choose Roche as their cannon, which can happen. Then I'd still expect the Pogrom in Flotsam with Letho, Saskia, Henselt dead and Triss rescued.

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it just gives better results.

In your opinion.

[dragonbird]

Costin Moroianu said:

I think it's difficult to say honestly. They might just go down the DA2 route where you have to pick between several different endings of TW2 instead of just having one like in TW1 to TW2.

Was that in the vanilla game in DA2, or a mod? I thought the latter, but I had imports so I'll admit I could be wrong.

But yes, I hope this is the approach they take. The coding will all be there anyway, and it's a customer-friendly way of dealing with it, especially as there're probably going to be quite a few people switching platform between games.

[Costin Moroianu]

Vanilla. Personally I am VERY much in favor of this ALONG WITH the ability create your own CUSTOM Geralt in a new game.

[RSIK4]

In My opinion ,Vernon Roche path indeed to continue in TW3....i am also sure triss will be with geralt....

[Ward Dragon]

Costin Moroianu said:

Vanilla. Personally I am VERY much in favor of this ALONG WITH the ability create your own CUSTOM Geralt in a new game. ›››

Only if it's a lot more detailed than DA2 My Origins save got corrupted and DA2 wouldn't recognize it (probably because I never got any of the DLC for Origins) so I used a fan-made save-game creation utility where I went down a very detailed checklist selecting all of the choices I had made (or would have made if I had gotten the DLC). That was fantastic and I'd want TW3 to have something like that instead of the simplified scenarios that DA2 included at the beginning.

[Costin Moroianu]

Well I think for brand new players having the ability to pick from premade Geralts would be better then asking them to chose from a checklist of choices they don't even know what they do.

The detailed checklist SHOULD be there though.

[dragonbird]

Ah, yes, I remember now. And there were certain perks that you only got if you imported, like the Nat Howe sidequest, which made it better to use the savegame creator rather than the options provided in the game.

I agree - it would be a good way to go with TW3.

[Lurtz_Of_Orthanc]

Costin Moroianu said:

Well I think for brand new players having the ability to pick from premade Geralts would be better then asking them to chose from a checklist of choices they don't even know what they do.

The detailed checklist SHOULD be there though. ›››

The checklist should definitely be there as an option for new players. But for the broad strokes that casuals can select from, I think four choices are appropriate - 2 shades of each Witcher 2 path (Roche and Iorveth). Here's my idea, based on my outline of the major choices of TW2 (link in signature).

GERALT, FREEDOM FIGHTER: This Geralt fights for nonhumans and freedom. He is benevolent and patient.

Prologue
SPARE ARYAN: You sympathize with his cause.
GIVE SWORD: Iorveth's your bro.
CHOOSE IORVETH: Roche's vendetta is petty.
SAVE MOTTLE: For the people.
Chapter 2
LYNCH STENNIS: Aedirn is free.
Chapter 3
GO WITH PHILIPPA: Only way to save Saskia, Free Peoples' Queen.
LET SILE DIE: Sile and the Lodge seek only to control Saskia and pervert the freedom of the people.
DISENCHANT SASKIA: Duh.
SPARE LETHO: His murder of kings ultimately strengthens the freedom of Saskia's new realm and anyone like her. No reason to kill.

GERALT, WAYWARD WITCHER: This Geralt has no time for any distractions save for his Witcher duties and romantic interests. He does not maintain allegiances and will readily kill his opponents.

Prologue
KILL ARYAN: He challenges you and you show him his foolishness.
Chapter 1
HELP ROCHE: Iorveth has given you little reason to trust him.
CHOOSE IORVETH: Seems like the fastest way to save Triss and find the Kingslayer.
PURSUE LOREDO: Can't leave any loose ends.
Chapter 2
SPARE STENNIS: A Witcher has no place inciting riots.
Chapter 3
SAVE TRISS (Iorveth): Triss is your goal, your rock, and your steadfast ally. She cannot be abandoned.
SAVE SILE: You need to resolve your quest for Yennefer. Sile's tidbit of info is worth letting her live.
KILL SASKIA (Iorveth-Save Triss): Witchers do not kill dragons, but she left you little choice.
KILL LETHO: Witchers shouldn't play politics, and if anyone's going to do it, it's going to be Geralt alone.

GERALT, TRUE TEMERIAN: This Geralt is the savior of Vizima and friend to Foltest. He is honorable and interest in the survival of the Temerian state above all.

Prologue
SPARE ARYAN: Temeria must stay strong and united.
Chapter 1
HELP ROCHE: Iorveth is a danger to the state.
CHOOSE ROCHE: Roche is Temeria's last hope.
Chapter 2
SPARE HENSELT: Roche must not dishonor Temeria with more kingsblood.
Chapter 3
SAVE ANAIS: Last hope for Temeria's bloodline.
GIVE ANAIS TO NATALIS: Temeria must not splinter.
SAVE SILE: Dethmold was your enemy, not Sile.
SPARE DRAGON (Roche-All): The Dragon helped Aryan once, it might help him again. Aryan is wild but still a Temerian.
SPARE LETHO: Killing him will not bring Foltest back. And if Anais wishes to avenge her father one day, Letho will still be out there.

GERALT, BUTCHER OF BLAVIKEN: This Geralt is not human but a Witcher. He is bred to be a killer, and revels in combat and violence.

Prologue
KILL ARYAN: Nobody challenges a Witcher.
Chapter 1
HELP ROCHE: Nobody commands a Witcher.
CHOOSE ROCHE: Loredo must die screaming.
Chapter 2
KILL HENSELT: Blood for blood.
Chapter 3
SAVE TRISS (Roche): The Nilfgaardians must pay.
LET SILE DIE: Nobody orders the death of a Witcher.
KILL DRAGON (Roche-All): Nothing can stop a Witcher.
KILL LETHO: All crimes end in blood.



I think these four profiles adequately represent the diverse characterizations you can give your Geralt, while still giving an advantage to people who have actually played the previous game - for instance, if you want to make Nilfgaard at the maximum disadvantage, you'll need to have played the previous game to get the right choices for that - sparing Aryan, doing Cynthia's quest in ch3 and killing all, saving Triss and killing all, killing Letho to stop his School of the Viper.

[dragonbird]

What the list will be will depend on what CDPR decide is important in the new game.

Won't it?

[Juuuhan]

I think people are going a bit of its rocker to pick what will be implemented in the saga.
Although Witcher 3 will have more engaging implementation of the previous game (due party to the release of the console which made the Witcher franchise more famous to the masses), it will still most likely not be that much.

Remember how the implementation of the Witcher 1 save file was mostly the swords, a bit of cash and some of the people we decided to save/kill. This is a logical approach so that new players doesn't feel cheated out of the story of Witcher 3, which will most likely be a intrigue with Nilfgaardian Empire and the search for Yennefer.

The thing that I think will be implemented is probably mentioning on how the kingdoms have developed, maybe what happened to Roach and Iorveth and such.

[IceEpicX]

Lurtz_Of_Orthanc said:

The checklist should definitely be there as an option for new players. But for the broad strokes that casuals can select from, I think four choices are appropriate - 2 shades of each Witcher 2 path (Roche and Iorveth). Here's my idea, based on my outline of the major choices of TW2 (link in signature).

GERALT, FREEDOM FIGHTER: This Geralt fights for nonhumans and freedom. He is benevolent and patient.

Prologue
SPARE ARYAN: You sympathize with his cause.
GIVE SWORD: Iorveth's your bro.
CHOOSE IORVETH: Roche's vendetta is petty.
SAVE MOTTLE: For the people.
Chapter 2
LYNCH STENNIS: Aedirn is free.
Chapter 3
GO WITH PHILIPPA: Only way to save Saskia, Free Peoples' Queen.
LET SILE DIE: Sile and the Lodge seek only to control Saskia and pervert the freedom of the people.
DISENCHANT SASKIA: Duh.
SPARE LETHO: His murder of kings ultimately strengthens the freedom of Saskia's new realm and anyone like her. No reason to kill.

GERALT, WAYWARD WITCHER: This Geralt has no time for any distractions save for his Witcher duties and romantic interests. He does not maintain allegiances and will readily kill his opponents.

Prologue
KILL ARYAN: He challenges you and you show him his foolishness.
Chapter 1
HELP ROCHE: Iorveth has given you little reason to trust him.
CHOOSE IORVETH: Seems like the fastest way to save Triss and find the Kingslayer.
PURSUE LOREDO: Can't leave any loose ends.
Chapter 2
SPARE STENNIS: A Witcher has no place inciting riots.
Chapter 3
SAVE TRISS (Iorveth): Triss is your goal, your rock, and your steadfast ally. She cannot be abandoned.
SAVE SILE: You need to resolve your quest for Yennefer. Sile's tidbit of info is worth letting her live.
KILL SASKIA (Iorveth-Save Triss): Witchers do not kill dragons, but she left you little choice.
KILL LETHO: Witchers shouldn't play politics, and if anyone's going to do it, it's going to be Geralt alone.

GERALT, TRUE TEMERIAN: This Geralt is the savior of Vizima and friend to Foltest. He is honorable and interest in the survival of the Temerian state above all.

Prologue
SPARE ARYAN: Temeria must stay strong and united.
Chapter 1
HELP ROCHE: Iorveth is a danger to the state.
CHOOSE ROCHE: Roche is Temeria's last hope.
Chapter 2
SPARE HENSELT: Roche must not dishonor Temeria with more kingsblood.
Chapter 3
SAVE ANAIS: Last hope for Temeria's bloodline.
GIVE ANAIS TO NATALIS: Temeria must not splinter.
SAVE SILE: Dethmold was your enemy, not Sile.
SPARE DRAGON (Roche-All): The Dragon helped Aryan once, it might help him again. Aryan is wild but still a Temerian.
SPARE LETHO: Killing him will not bring Foltest back. And if Anais wishes to avenge her father one day, Letho will still be out there.

GERALT, BUTCHER OF BLAVIKEN: This Geralt is not human but a Witcher. He is bred to be a killer, and revels in combat and violence.

Prologue
KILL ARYAN: Nobody challenges a Witcher.
Chapter 1
HELP ROCHE: Nobody commands a Witcher.
CHOOSE ROCHE: Loredo must die screaming.
Chapter 2
KILL HENSELT: Blood for blood.
Chapter 3
SAVE TRISS (Roche): The Nilfgaardians must pay.
LET SILE DIE: Nobody orders the death of a Witcher.
KILL DRAGON (Roche-All): Nothing can stop a Witcher.
KILL LETHO: All crimes end in blood.



I think these four profiles adequately represent the diverse characterizations you can give your Geralt, while still giving an advantage to people who have actually played the previous game - for instance, if you want to make Nilfgaard at the maximum disadvantage, you'll need to have played the previous game to get the right choices for that - sparing Aryan, doing Cynthia's quest in ch3 and killing all, saving Triss and killing all, killing Letho to stop his School of the Viper. ›››

Nice list,I enjoyed reading it.It makes sense,and can be used for multiple playtroughs.Really GJ,i really hope CDPR listens to your advice.

Altrough it would be cool if you added,geralt the cold politian for Roche

Roche:you would kill Henselt,kill Arayan and give Anais to Radovid,so the North is powerfull united by Radovid.

[Costin Moroianu]

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Roche:you would kill Henselt,kill Arayan and give Anais to Radovid,so the North is powerfull united by Radovid.

There's no way Radovid can handle Kaedwen, Aedirn, Temeria and Redania at the same time. Hell he only takes Temeria if he has Anais.

A Cold Politician would spare Henselt, Kill Sile, spare Aryan, save Anais and give her to Radovid, but he'd spare Letho since he would want to keep his options open with regards to Nilfgaard.

A Temerian Nationalist would be the one killing Henselt, killing Sile, killing Aryan ( he did rebel against Foltest ), saving Anais and giving her to Natalis and then killing Letho.

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I think people are going a bit of its rocker to pick what will be implemented in the saga.
Although Witcher 3 will have more engaging implementation of the previous game (due party to the release of the console which made the Witcher franchise more famous to the masses), it will still most likely not be that much.

If TW3 doesn't have much better import handling then personally I won't bother finishing it. In fact I am very much considering waiting with regards to my purchase to see whether or not my choices will mean anything in the game, if they don't I won't care to buy it since I'd rather think my choices in TW2 meant something rather then just fluff and I'm tired of playing games where the developers talk about how meaningful our choices will be ( and CDPR had constantly talked about this and their 16 endings which turned into 16 ending states ) and then those choices don't mean squat in future games.

In fact if they make it the same like TW1 to TW2 was then they are worse then Bioware with Mass Effect 3, way worse. I intend to vote with my wallet.

The way I would want it done however is that since the game will very likely be in Nilfgaard and only in Nilfgaard ( unless CDPR thinks it can do the Imperial Capital, most of the Empire AND the North at the same time ) is that Letho would show up and have a meaningful impact in a certain story quest, or several of them or even the whole story.

But other characters? No I don't expect them to show up, though would be nice if we got war cinematics from time to time seeing either Roche in Redanian colors or Temerian colors fighting, Siegfried, Iorveth, Saskia, Henselt, Aryan.

Then the outcome of said battles in the cinematics would depend on our W2 choices, this however is not strictly necessary. It would be nice, but not necessary for me. Dialogue from characters talking about battles that change depending on your choices IS however very much so. I DON'T need to have Roche in the game, what I want is to have people refer to my actions and not in just one or two situations but more then that ( say Emhyr is talking about strategy and reflecting on how the war is going, and that progress would depend on your choices ).

What I think IS important is having people treat Geralt differently depending on your choices. Say you killed Letho then Emhyr doesn't trust you as much, you spare him them Letho helps you out to win Emhyr's trust. There should also be quite a bit of dialogue with regards to choices such as giving Anais to Radovid or Natalis, sparing or killing Henselt and so on...perhaps with Triss ( I figure she's going to be with you ) or if they want to force Dandelion down our throats a third time then with him.

As for the notion that the console version made the game more famous to the masses, eh yes and no. No in the sense that there are still more PC players then console players overall, maybe even double. Yes in the sense that the free Enhanced Edition, the new intro ( developed specifically to market TW2 for the Xbox ) which a lot of people liked did certainly help.

[Bloth]

Letho wins.

It's strange that you should mention the ME3 imports, I was talking with my nephew about it yesterday (he's still really pissed off about the game for some reason) and he was raging about all the import decisions being shit, because whoever he'd killed would just have a slot in stunt double replacement in the third game. Then again I think he killed most everybody, with the exception of Arsey McGee. To him this meant that all his decisions were rendered null and void, he was exceptionally scathing of the reapers making another Rachni queen, as their first priority would be destroying races not reconstituting old ones, that they've then got to destroy.

I just told him about the Smudboy vids, and have not heard from him since.

[Ward Dragon]

Juuuhan said:

Remember how the implementation of the Witcher 1 save file was mostly the swords, a bit of cash and some of the people we decided to save/kill. This is a logical approach so that new players doesn't feel cheated out of the story of Witcher 3, which will most likely be a intrigue with Nilfgaardian Empire and the search for Yennefer.

The thing that I think will be implemented is probably mentioning on how the kingdoms have developed, maybe what happened to Roach and Iorveth and such. ›››

Yeah, I got the impression that importing the TW1 save was kind of a last-minute decision which was why it didn't have much impact. They've planned all along to import TW2 saves into TW3 so I think it will be handled in more depth. I kind of expect most of the actual TW2 consequences to take place off-screen anyway since we'll be elsewhere, but I'm hoping that there will be a lot more references to what we did in terms of learning news about the northern kingdoms or about characters that we kept alive.

Blothulfur said:

Letho wins. ›››

[Seboist]

If the map in the after credits of the EE is anything to go by,the default will be Roche path with Anais with Natalis and Kaedwen in control of Upper Aedirn.

[Ward Dragon]

Seboist said:

If the map in the after credits of the EE is anything to go by,the default will be Roche path with Anais with Natalis and Kaedwen in control of Upper Aedirn. ›››

I'm pretty sure the map changes based upon your decisions I remember seeing a different map on my Iorveth play-through compared to my Roche play-through.

[Costin Moroianu]

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It's strange that you should mention the ME3 imports, I was talking with my nephew about it yesterday (he's still really pissed off about the game for some reason) and he was raging about all the import decisions being shit, because whoever he'd killed would just have a slot in stunt double replacement in the third game. Then again I think he killed most everybody, with the exception of Arsey McGee. To him this meant that all his decisions were rendered null and void, he was exceptionally scathing of the reapers making another Rachni queen, as their first priority would be destroying races not reconstituting old ones, that they've then got to destroy.

Oh don't get me wrong I KNOW ME3 is bad for all intents and purposes with imports, especially if you killed someone off.

But there are some very good moments, like with Mordin and Wrex, Tali, Legion, Garrus and so on.

[Seboist]

Ward Dragon said:

I'm pretty sure the map changes based upon your decisions /> I remember seeing a different map on my Iorveth play-through compared to my Roche play-through. ›››

You're mixing up the epilogue reel map with the end credit one. I gave Anais to Radovid and the latter didn't reflect it.