I've played the game through twice now, so I think I have a pretty good handle on all the plot points, but there's one thing I'm not entirely sure of.
In 'Indecent Proposal,' when you sneak around back and peep into the window, you hear Sile and Loredo arguing rather forefully. Both seem to want something from the other. When you report back to Roche, you say something along the lines of 'Loredo's angling for something.'
So I know that Sile came to Flotsam to find Letho on the pretense of killing the Kayran, and that Loredo at this point is planning to sell Flotsam. Is Sile insisting that he doesn't make the sale, so that Henselt won't get any more powerful?
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Sile and Loredo (spoilers)
08.05.2012 @ 17:41 #2
What you say makes a good deal of sense, and is at least as good as any other speculation. "Henselt's hegemony runs counter to the Lodge's interest." (Philippa in Act II).
You don't get to hear any specifics during the conversation, and neither one will talk about it later, other than that Sile has made some kind of "offer", possibly the kind of "offer you can't refuse", like "if you drop this plan to sell Flotsam to Kaedwen, and kick Merse and Malliger to the curb, I won't spill the beans to Roche, and he might decide to leave town before making a new set of garters out of your guts after all."
You don't get to hear any specifics during the conversation, and neither one will talk about it later, other than that Sile has made some kind of "offer", possibly the kind of "offer you can't refuse", like "if you drop this plan to sell Flotsam to Kaedwen, and kick Merse and Malliger to the curb, I won't spill the beans to Roche, and he might decide to leave town before making a new set of garters out of your guts after all."
The amateur tenor, whose vocal villainies
All desire to shirk,
Shall during off hours exhibit his powers
To Madame Tussaud's wax-work.
[G&S, "A more humane Mikado"]
All desire to shirk,
Shall during off hours exhibit his powers
To Madame Tussaud's wax-work.
[G&S, "A more humane Mikado"]
08.05.2012 @ 18:19 #3
Maybe it refers to Iorveth?
Loredo desperately wanted to catch him and Sile could have offered to help him with this, since catching Iorveth would get her a step closer to Letho.
Loredo desperately wanted to catch him and Sile could have offered to help him with this, since catching Iorveth would get her a step closer to Letho.
I left my heart to the Wild Hunt a-comin'. I live until the call. And I plan to be forgotten when I'm gone. Yes, I'll be leaving in the fall.
- The Tallest Man On Earth
- The Tallest Man On Earth
08.05.2012 @ 18:33 #4
My personal take, Sile was demanding Loredo send his men into the forest and hunt down Letho and Iorveth. Bernard refused because he's not a stupid bastard and the sorceress was threatening him, probably with her soon to be position besides Henselt, and how she will use the monarchs favour to punish the traitor when he hands over Flotsam.
I have waited many years for the Incline to begin. False prophets I have followed and obscure lore perused, but always there has been nought but the bitter taste of disappointment at the end of my travails. Still I do not give up, I do not falter with weariness. Even if it should never come to pass I will still believe and search, for the Incline is beautiful and it SHOULD exist.
08.05.2012 @ 19:00 #5
Sile's language ("consider... carefully") does suggest that her "offer" may have been that kind of demand, or carried a more or less well veiled threat.
I'm not positive it's to do with Letho; if it's to eliminate a thorn in her side, it's more likely Iorveth. Geralt would be an ideal "enemy of my enemy" in the hunt for Letho and probably the only human who could track the Kingslayer without being turned into a pincushion. But Sile is completely opaque about the conversation with Loredo, which suggests that she does not think Geralt would be a reliable ally (if she is hunting Iorveth) or that she has no use for him in her plans.
I'm not positive it's to do with Letho; if it's to eliminate a thorn in her side, it's more likely Iorveth. Geralt would be an ideal "enemy of my enemy" in the hunt for Letho and probably the only human who could track the Kingslayer without being turned into a pincushion. But Sile is completely opaque about the conversation with Loredo, which suggests that she does not think Geralt would be a reliable ally (if she is hunting Iorveth) or that she has no use for him in her plans.
The amateur tenor, whose vocal villainies
All desire to shirk,
Shall during off hours exhibit his powers
To Madame Tussaud's wax-work.
[G&S, "A more humane Mikado"]
All desire to shirk,
Shall during off hours exhibit his powers
To Madame Tussaud's wax-work.
[G&S, "A more humane Mikado"]
08.05.2012 @ 21:34 #7
by Sile you mean Sheala? cause what she wants is to cure Henselt infertility with some Kayran ingredients, if she can make Henselt to have a heir, maybe he will accept her in court so the lodge of whitches (the one formed at the swallow tower book, the 6th one)can have one of her own at every northern king court...
at least thats what I understood...
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at least thats what I understood...
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08.05.2012 @ 21:49 #8
bigbadmclovin said:
by Sile you mean Sheala? cause what she wants is to cure Henselt infertility with some Kayran ingredients, if she can make Henselt to have a heir, maybe he will accept her in court so the lodge of whitches (the one formed at the swallow tower book, the 6th one)can have one of her own at every northern king court...
at least thats what I understood...
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at least thats what I understood...
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Yeah, Sile de Tansarville = Sheala de Tancarville, in different localizations. I agree her plans are (in part, because she has other objectives such as eliminating Letho) to ingratiate herself with Henselt so that she can be the Lodge's mole at his court. But it's more a specific need to be informed of Henselt's actions and to have means to thwart them, as well as to subvert Dethmold's influence, than the Lodge's general policy of placing a sorceress at every court.
The kings who most concerned the Lodge were Demavend and Henselt. Demavend held, and Henselt now threatens, Upper Aedirn/Lormark, which the sorceresses want for themselves.
As for the other kings, Foltest was safely under Triss Merigold's charming influence, and I think Philippa badly (and almost fatally) underestimated her onetime protege, Radovid.
The amateur tenor, whose vocal villainies
All desire to shirk,
Shall during off hours exhibit his powers
To Madame Tussaud's wax-work.
[G&S, "A more humane Mikado"]
All desire to shirk,
Shall during off hours exhibit his powers
To Madame Tussaud's wax-work.
[G&S, "A more humane Mikado"]
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