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What Happened to Boussy?

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04.05.2012 @ 12:41 #1

I thought the new quest would explain some detail about it. But I always wondered, what happened to him? how did he died? and who killed him?
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04.05.2012 @ 13:16 #2

What I understood is he was killed by accident during the attack on those transfering him and Anais.
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04.05.2012 @ 13:18 #3



It kind of sounds like they're just assuming he's dead. On the other hand, it sounds like there are only the two wagons by how Brigida describes traveling with a "limited escort so as to not draw attention." If that's the case...



Then chances are that since Anais was evidently fine, which people on fire rarely are, Boussy's wagon was the one being set on fire in this picture:



So I'm going to go with either "burned to death by random NPC," "burned half to death and then starved in the forest," or "secretly alive and will make for an incredibly irritating sidequest in Witcher 3."

Damn, now I want a Boussy expansion where he has to fight endregas while weeping openly.
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04.05.2012 @ 13:29 #4

I think he might be alive purely based on the way Dandelion refers to him in the journal. He says something along the lines of "He [Boussy] was only a lad then." The wording just makes me think that Dandelion knows him as an adult
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04.05.2012 @ 15:41 #5

I thought all the questions were answered during the new quests in Act 3 (Roche). If you finish all of them, you find out the truth, and I can't think of any particular questions that are left open. Even the journal is nicely updated during the course of the quests, leaving little to no doubt regarding his fate.


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04.05.2012 @ 16:18 #6

He's gonna come back at the end of TW3, six years in the future, as a total badass who's been raised by wolves.

Mark my words. Gonna happen.
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04.05.2012 @ 17:41 #7

spacehamsterZH said:

He's gonna come back at the end of TW3, six years in the future, as a total badass who's been raised by wolves.

Mark my words. Gonna happen. ›››

Anais might still curbstomp him--that's one serious daddy's girl right there (in the best sense), and Foltest was more than capable of being badass.
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04.05.2012 @ 17:51 #8

spacehamsterZH said:

He's gonna come back at the end of TW3, six years in the future, as a total badass who's been raised by wolves.

Mark my words. Gonna happen. ›››

Haha! I'm actually hoping you're right. A sweet comeback it would be. :ice:

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Anais might still curbstomp him--that's one serious daddy's girl right there (in the best sense), and Foltest was more than capable of being badass. ›››

Anais, by the sound of it at the end of the game, will shape up to be an awesome monarch. It's about time the franchise introduced a truly strong and competent female character, who also wields a lot of political power (the sorceresses don't count).
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04.05.2012 @ 22:03 #9

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It's about time the franchise introduced a truly strong and competent female character, who also wields a lot of political power (the sorceresses don't count).

Saskia, anyone?
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04.05.2012 @ 22:06 #10

I hope Anais was a Calanthe :P
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04.05.2012 @ 22:37 #11

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Saskia, anyone? ›››

Looked down-upon by nearly anyone who's in power; she's admired by those who have no power, who are also the people she fights for, hence her popularity and the ensuing rebellion during the course of the game. What I meant was, that if Anais did indeed eventually come to don the crown of Temeria, she could be a ruler that's truly badass, and despite those who will still look at her as a bastard, she'll be in a situation far different than that of Saskia's, as Anais will rightfully be a queen.
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04.05.2012 @ 22:55 #12

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Looked down-upon by nearly anyone who's in power; she's admired by those who have no power, who are also the people she fights for, hence her popularity and the ensuing rebellion during the course of the game. What I meant was, that if Anais did indeed eventually come to don the crown of Temeria, she could be a ruler that's truly badass, and despite those who will still look at her as a bastard, she'll be in a situation far different than that of Saskia's, as Anais will rightfully be a queen. ›››


Given a suitable regent, Anais could be proclaimed queen right now and would instantly be wildly popular.

As interrex at the pleasure of the damnfool nobles, John Natalis (prudently) lacks confidence in his authority. As Lord Protector of a popular and at least arguably rightful queen, he gains a lot of stature. He's already a hero, but he could be Temeria's "Good Regent Moray" into the bargain.

Of course, it is never clear that Natalis has any such inclination or ambition.
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04.05.2012 @ 23:15 #13

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What I meant was, that if Anais did indeed eventually come to don the crown of Temeria, she could be a ruler that's truly badass, and despite those who will still look at her as a bastard, she'll be in a situation far different than that of Saskia's, as Anais will rightfully be a queen.

Why couldn't Saskia rightfully be a queen? The kings of the North are just descendents of brigands and robber-knights who set up forts in good locations, and over generations became respectable rulers. Their supposed higher standing is only in their imaginations. Saskia commands a significant military force which will only grow with her success, and that alone makes her a power to be reckoned with. The kings don't take her seriously because they don't know her yet, but when Nilfgaard approaches, they'll approach anyone with armed men to spare on their knees.

We know next to nothing about Anais, really. She could grow up to be anything, in good and ill. Assuming instantly that she'd be a terrific ruler or a strong monarch just because she's Foltest's daughter is nonsense. Whoever raises her will have a strong influence to what kind of person she'll be, and there are unpredictable factors at play, as well.
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04.05.2012 @ 23:26 #14

The vikings had a saying. "He is a king who can walk into the Thing (assembly), announce that he is one and walk out alive." In other words, if you've got the strength, in will and men, you can make anything happen.

I agree with Lightice here, often times strong men have sired exceptionally weak children, greatness does not seem to run reliably in the blood. Though if Anais were raised by Roche and Natalis, I can't imagine better role models. A master of the the battlefield and a master of the dirty realities that hide behind statecraft.
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04.05.2012 @ 23:43 #15

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Of course, it is never clear that Natalis has any such inclination or ambition. ›››

Indeed. Overall, he is respected and quite well-liked, but as is stated early in the game he's "a common soldier" and "of low birth," meaning he's not as popular when it comes to crowning a rightful king. Also, if his own words are to believed (and he strikes me as a rather trustworthy fellow), he does claim during the talks that he knows his place and that he has no intention of going after the crown. He seems very sincere in this (seriously, all the political talk involved if you reach Loc Muinne on Roche's path... very intriguing), and in that he agrees to "be in charge" until a more rightful ruler can take his place, if only to keep order in the meantime.


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Why couldn't Saskia rightfully be a queen? The kings of the North are just descendents of brigands and robber-knights who set up forts in locations, and over generations became respectable rulers. Their supposed higher standing is only in their imaginations. Saskia commands a significant military force which will only grow with her success, and that alone makes her a power to be reckoned with. The kings don't take her seriously because they don't know her yet, but when Nilfgaard approaches, they'll approach anyone with armed men to spare on their knees. ›››

This is of course very true, but at the same time something the northern monarchs quickly forget in the "modern day." They cling to their dynasties, and a lot of the political part of the story deals with the importance of royal blood and keeping the lineages alive. (Yes, it's just as ridiculous in The Witcher 2 as it is in our own world, but it's how it is.) Saskia is a peasant who gathered together enough other peasants and outlaws to form a considerable army. Sure, she can come to power and proclaim herself queen of the free state of Upper Aedirn, but even if the other kings will eventually be forced to recognise her claim (if you go on Iorveth's path through the story, only Henselt is ready to do this, and he does so incredibly reluctantly with his head hanged in shame - his sense of honour forces him to stick to his word - while Radovid quite harshly speaks out against her), she will not be treated with the same respect as one of these "rightful" rulers would. It all boils down to perceived respect and actual political etiquette (aye, I'm aware of how silly that sounds): If by all means they must recognise her as a ruler among themselves, officially, they will never approve of her on a personal level. In their eyes, she'll always be the peasant girl upstart. That's not to say they won't welcome her army of peasants and outlaws when Nilfgaard is at their doorstep, though. Desperate times and all that.

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We know next to nothing about Anais, really. She could grow up to be anything, in good and ill. Assuming instantly that she'd be a terrific ruler or a strong monarch just because she's Foltest's daughter is nonsense. Whoever raises her will have a strong influence to what kind of person she'll be, and there are unpredictable factors at play, as well. ›››

It is stated during the epilogue that Roche has taken it upon him to teach her swordplay (at her own request), and Natalis is going to teach her about warfare. This was all sparked by her own words - the first spoken in a long while - about how she wants to learn how to fight so that she can avenge her father. It's obviously impossible to predict the future, but these things give us a good hint on where she is heading at the end of TW2, at least. Exciting possibilities!
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05.05.2012 @ 11:26 #16

"Avenging" her fathers death could have more than one possibility . Such as would she hold it against all witchers for a witcher did the slaying or against Nilfgaard because they set the plan in motion or both .

Remember also that she saw her fathers murder as a child and we have no idea what that could do her mind in that she could turn avenge into revenge so yes i agree with Kindo when he says "Exciting possibilities" !
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05.05.2012 @ 20:36 #17

Kindo said:

I thought all the questions were answered during the new quests in Act 3 (Roche). If you finish all of them, you find out the truth, and I can't think of any particular questions that are left open. Even the journal is nicely updated during the course of the quests, leaving little to no doubt regarding his fate.

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It answers the question of whether Maravel's thugs delivered boussy to their boss, but not whether he is alive.

Remember that the letter you intercept is official correspondence to the ambassador of a vastly more powerful empire. If Boussy got seriously injured or escaped, Maravel would rather proclaim him dead than admit his failure to the Nilfgaard ambassador.

I don't think the formal, carefully worded letter should be considered the final world on Boussy's fate. He might yet show up in TW3, though unlikely as a key character.
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05.05.2012 @ 20:44 #18

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He might yet show up in TW3, though unlikely as a key character. ›››

Which would definitely be awesome, I admit, but I got the impression from the game that his fate was kind of sealed. I would not be upset if I was proven wrong, in TW3, however.
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05.05.2012 @ 21:54 #19

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"Avenging" her fathers death could have more than one possibility . Such as would she hold it against all witchers for a witcher did the slaying or against Nilfgaard because they set the plan in motion or both .

Remember also that she saw her fathers murder as a child and we have no idea what that could do her mind in that she could turn avenge into revenge so yes i agree with Kindo when he says "Exciting possibilities" ! ›››

I'd say seeing as she spoke up for Geralt in front of all the nobles its more likely to manifest itself in the latter form. Or it could put her on a brutal campaign against the Squirrels for Iorveth's hand in it
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07.05.2012 @ 19:33 #20

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I'd say seeing as she spoke up for Geralt in front of all the nobles its more likely to manifest itself in the latter form. Or it could put her on a brutal campaign against the Squirrels for Iorveth's hand in it ›››


Is that sarcasm or did I miss some part of the story? that girl was as silent as a grave! She never spoke for Gearalt . . . in fact . . . none of them ever spoke a single word!
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