The baddie's overall plot
12.04.2012 @ 09:37 #1
I got to thinking over the plot of Jacques. In essence, he's a source of incredible power which enables him to wield magic, teleport through places and time and be haunted by dreams and visions despite wearing a dimeretium amulet. He sees the ice covered lands in the far future, much like Ithilenne (Sp?) probably did.
So he sets out to prevent that from happening. He starts by forming The Order of the Eternal Fire, then he hires Azar Javed, The Professor and Savolla to form Salamandra (pusing into the Fisstech market to earn gold) and assault Kaer Morhen to steal the Witcher's secrets of mutation. His plan is to create an army of Big Brother's who can lead their way south to warmer lands where, according to him, they'll be able to escape the coming ice age. As far as I can work out.
Now something that's not fully explained is: Does he intent to conquer his way through Nilfgaard? Or merely ensure a large enough escort to go through mostly unharmed? Wouldn't he need a MASSIVE amount of Big Brother's to safely escort the people of the north through Nilfgaarde? I'm having a hard time believing that Nilfgard would see it any other way than an act of war and mobilize their entire army to stop such a journey through their lands.
I don't quite get the last part if I'm honest.
12.04.2012 @ 15:57 #2
12.04.2012 @ 18:19 #3
1. Nilfgaard is in the south, but not all of the south is Nillfgaard.Maybe the southeast is without any occupation. (Because it has no ressources to harvest or so.)
2. Nilfgaard needs to move south as well, because it is a MASSIVE ice age, so they're not thought of as enemies.
3. The Order+Salamandra is big enough that they really have enough big mutants to trample through everything.
4. The Order as a more or less religious group is as well established in Nilfgaard as in Temeria - at least when the ice age comes, so they are either not perceived as enemies or have enough support to trample down any resistance.
I don't think he has flawed plans. After all, he made no mistakes in The Witcher 1. He could have Geralt have killed at several points, he simply wanted to convince him until the very last moment.
12.04.2012 @ 18:58 #4
Or it could just be the whole megalomaniac thing.
15.04.2012 @ 23:34 #5
He has centuries to form a nation whose iron backbone is the mutated supersoldiers of his great army. With the ice drawing close, will the human nations gather together and seek mere survival? No they will maneuver for advantage and take what they can with the sword if needs be. But Jacques armies will be stronger with each passing day while his enemies are felled by that fierce old general winter.
It leaves me thinking that it's not a mission of mercy he's undertaking, but a really long term power play. It's disgustingly cynical but all the logical pieces seem to fit, and with the benefit of hindsight Jacques is uniquely equipped to take advantage of a weakened and fractious humanity. With the very creatures that were made to protect them no less.
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10.05.2012 @ 11:31 #7
Not to mention that the coming of the Ice Age would drastically rearrange priorities of every man and every nation, most likely toppling the current political order. The massive army of fearless, blindly loyal supersoldiers would be able to safeguard the Order's survival mission against any military powers - whether it would be the armies of the Northern Kingdoms, Nilfgaard, or whatever ragtag armed groups still fighting for power while the world transforms into a frozen hell.
The Witcher 1's ending is a funny one. After you finally defeat the game's chief antagonist, you're left wondering whether you just saved the world or doomed the entire human race.
10.05.2012 @ 15:16 #8
He could have garnered support from the Lodge of Sorceresses for example and start from there to prepare for the ice age.
15.12.2012 @ 14:21 #10
Most of all though my Geralt blames himself for failing Alvin, and wonders whether it was his intervention that turned Alvin into the grandmaster.
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04.02.2013 @ 16:58 #11
11.04.2013 @ 20:28 #12
He couldn't have foltest's army surrendered to his whims, so he covered the city in blood, and provoked the elder races into skirmishes to force them cover from their part the city in flames. What he was trying to avoid from ice age, he himself inflicted upon innocents; death and torment.
I believe the King of the Hunt wanted his soul because he was special as a human, plus a source. I did not let him have it however; i finished him myself and grabbed vapors of the hunt in the process. From my point of view, the order except for sound exceptions such as siegfried, is rotten and evil to the core. Fanatics, hypocrites, murderers; criminals of war, tools of madmen. Tis only fitting they now lick radovid's boots, the cruel and ruthless bastard he is. Yet no one can blame him; had a hard childhood and many tough situations to either cope with or overcome.
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