[Mv.c9]

This question is actually very much related to the thread "What CDP/Witcher can learn from Mass Effect 3". After reading a few post I was surprised at the comments.

Do notice that the multiplayer feature is not in the poll since apparently we all hate it, or at least as far as I heard.

So lets be honest here, the gameplay was not that bad. It was quite diverse. I hated running around here and there for the pointless asset gathering quests. But overall I had fun in the combat. They were intense, and combining guns and powers reminded me of how witcher is played, where you combine swords and signs. So pretty much it should be liked by all witcher fans. or at least logically I think so.

The story, yeah, i hated it too, because not only it did not made sense, but that it contradicted it self, the ending in particular was astonishingly disappointing. but so was Deus Ex and countless of other games, but that does not mean that the game itself is bad. After all no one has the power to create an amazing diverse plot like the witcher.

BioWare in fact is considered world wide to be the blood-suckers of the gaming world since money is very important to them. But they didnt do a very bad job either. It was an improvement compared to the other two in the trilogy. (Gameplay wise). Also many, many critics gave good reviews about the game. I can understand that you can manipulate and buy them off if you have enough money, but all of them gave them 80/100 up. I mean they cant buy off everyone, right? or am I too naive to believe that the system works that not everything is corrupted.

If there is something bad about this game -gameplay wise- please enlighten me, other than stealing my money with cheap DLCs and forced Multiplayers and a very bad ending, i saw very little issues regarding the gameplay, if you know something then please go ahead and enlighten me.

Are these faked?

+ Tom Francis of PC Gamer US gave the game a score of 93/100 and ended with saying "...the end of the series is a mixed bag. Satisfying in some ways, nonsensical in others, and ultimately too simple. But the sheer scale of the adventure it’s ending – and the music, which is gorgeous throughout – gives it an emotional impact that goes beyond its plot payload."
+ Edge rated the game 8/10 saying "It’s off-putting to new players, too busy tying up loose ends to dangle any threads of its own, and fails to stand up as its own game in the same manner as its predecessors. But it’s also a spectacular, powerfully imagined and dramatically involving final act to one of gaming’s richest sci-fi sagas."

[Aditya_the_warrior_within]

I loved the story too with the gameplay, only the ending sucked bad! Well there were more loose ends but overall the story was fine and I think you should add this to the poll too

[Veritable Sage]

I loved the gameplay AND the story, but the ending was a betrayal on the part of BioWare. They got me with DA2 last year, and now this. They've ruined an awesome series with a totally crappy ending, a dark version of the Battlestar Galactica ending. What happened to originality and the player's right to a satisfying game experience?



I will never spend another cent on a Bioware game. CDPR is a glowing example of how a developer should treat their fans. Not with dead silence, as in the case of Bioware, but with productive action, as in CDPR. Can't wait for Witcher 3 AND CDPR's promised space epic. Lay you odds CDPR puts Bioware to shame with that one.

[Costin Moroianu]

I loved it. Had some issues with the story ( TIM is the biggest ) but overall very good.

[Pangaea]

Mv.c9 said:

+ Tom Francis of PC Gamer US gave the game a score of 93/100 and ended with saying "...the end of the series is a mixed bag. Satisfying in some ways, nonsensical in others, and ultimately too simple. But the sheer scale of the adventure it’s ending – and the music, which is gorgeous throughout – gives it an emotional impact that goes beyond its plot payload."

Stuff like this is what I don't get with reviewers. By that sentence he says the game has several flaws; "nonsensical" and "too simple" is not mild criticism. Yet the game gets almost as good a score as is possible with 93/100.

With a score like that the game should be so good it blows you away, you should sit there with a mental boner while playing the game.

I don't think reviewers are literally paid off, it doesn't work quite like that. It's probably much more in line with the degrading quality of the news business where advertising interests and state power tends to line up fairly well with what news organisation cover and what they don't. It has simply become in the best interests of the reviewers and gaming sites to reward crap titles from big studios with way over the top ratings.

[Sirnaq]

Gameplay was fine, story was not bad enough to ruin the shooting aliens element for me. I wish that next time bioware decide to make rpg tho.

[Gibb_Geralt]

I don't see the option for those who loved the gameplay and story, but hated the ending.

[Prince_12]

Loved it! It's a very good game, there's no hiding that, but saying the game sucks because of the endings is really dumb imo. Okay yeah, they could have been better, but overall it's a great game.

[Kris teh pwnz]

ME3 HAS A BROKEN MULTIPLAYER. YOU CAN EASILY LOST ALL OF YOUR PURCHASED ITEMS, EVEN THOSE YOU SPENT MONEY ON, DUE TO A BUG.

BE WARNED.

[Monimonster]

I had great fun with the game, hated the ending. Dont think it has much replayability at all, bad ending or not.

[grregg]

Pangaea said:

Stuff like this is what I don't get with reviewers. By that sentence he says the game has several flaws; "nonsensical" and "too simple" is not mild criticism. Yet the game gets almost as good a score as is possible with 93/100.

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It does make sense to me. The game takes what, 20, 30 hours? I wouldn't discount 30 hours of fun just because the last 5 minutes are not as good as they could be.

[Costin Moroianu]

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Stuff like this is what I don't get with reviewers. By that sentence he says the game has several flaws; "nonsensical" and "too simple" is not mild criticism. Yet the game gets almost as good a score as is possible with 93/100.

A 10/10 score or a 9.3 does not indicate perfection. It indicates the good stuff is better then the bad stuff, and there is bad stuff in ME3, just like there is bad stuff in TW2.

I give ME3 a 10/10. It's just damned good.

[Pham]

Haven't played it yet, waiting to see if there is a patch that alters the ending. The petition is pretty strong.
Overall, I will love the gameplay, like the story. My expectation is a 8-8.5/10 game (because I almost never give a game 9/10)

[Queenslayer]

I thought that ME3 was a brilliant game. The build up was perfectly made, the attack on earth, the mars mission (especially with Ashley), the slow peaceful feel on the Citadel, and then the rest of the missions. It was a conclusion to the series, but also it felt like a standalone from the other games. Brilliantly made imho.

[Pangaea]

Costin Moroianu said:

A 10/10 score or a 9.3 does not indicate perfection. It indicates the good stuff is better then the bad stuff, and there is bad stuff in ME3, just like there is bad stuff in TW2.

I give ME3 a 10/10. It's just damned good. ›››

Good stuff better than bad stuff is 5.5. Not 93/100 and most certainly not 10/10. But this just shows how depleted the scale of reviewers is. They basically don't use 80% of the scale, which gives a strong bias towards the upper end of the scale. Even poor games get 7/10 and the like, which in a rational world would be a fairly good score. But the gaming review world is not rational.

This is a tangent from the topic, though. It just frustrates me how inaccurate reviews are, and how boosted scores are due to this "we will only use the top fifth of the scale" BS.

[Mrowakus]

Meh, lads - it's not just the ending that sucks. From the storytelling perspective there are plenty of things that are simply wrong with this title. With inconsistencies ranging from silly to blatantly stupid, through wrong pacing, the entire idea of Reapers starting their invasion with Earth to unconvincing character motivations and lame twists.

Let's face it - Bioware was simply hyped to be the masters of storytelling - but I have yet to see their alleged competence. With this title they once again proved that they have no clue what constitutes quality writing, and I won't mention even botched implementation of the said writing within the framework of the gameplay.

As for gameplay - yeah it's better than in previous installments, which is not saying much... After all it comes down to going through a linear corridor (I played FPSs with more complex maps than in ME3) and fending off consecutive waves of enemies - go 50 metres - fight a wave - go 50 metres, fight another - rince and repeat. I admit I quite I like it but in the way I like B and C grade horror movies with lots of ketchup. It definitely is not something CDP Red should draw inspirations from.

[Ward Dragon]

I haven't played ME3 yet so I won't vote in the poll. Having said that, I expect that I won't like the gameplay since I hated the gameplay in ME2, and ME3 seems to be more or less the same. I expect I'll enjoy some of the subplots in the story like I did with ME2, but I'll be very disappointed with the main plot mostly due to that ending which I've already seen on Youtube (I wanted to know what all the fuss was about and whether the leaked ending was actually real).

Mv.c9 said:

The story, yeah, i hated it too, because not only it did not made sense, but that it contradicted it self, the ending in particular was astonishingly disappointing. but so was Deus Ex and countless of other games, but that does not mean that the game itself is bad. After all no one has the power to create an amazing diverse plot like the witcher. ›››

Are you referring to the original Deus Ex here? If so, then I have to disagree since I think the original Deus Ex had one of the best endings out of all videogames ever It actually tied in very well with everything that the game had established and foreshadowed up to that point, and I loved it for letting me choose which side I trusted and then making that decision actually matter. Of course that got thrown out the window with Invisible War, but I think everyone just pretends Invisible War doesn't exist

[Trippbear]

I quite liked the gameplay and the story overall. Combat was tight and the UI was clean and simple imo. IT was little bit too short and I was hoping more side quests and couple more squad mates. Some of the quests were just plain boredom. The ending(s) were little disappointing and they shouldn't have left it on such a cliffhanger. But overall it as very enjoyable game and I'm definitely gonna replay it.

[Geophase]

I thought the shooting mechanics were an improvement over the others, but the RPG aspects felt really dumbed down, and the story was dreadful! It shouldn't be 'what can CDP learn from ME3', it should be 'What can bioware learn from the Witcher 2'.

[bandit112]

well i thought ME1 was great, but i guess it was a new experience, but still a great story, number 2 i started to struggle with, no weapons drop, story line shallow, but i progressed through. number 3 found totally unimaginative, boring, music kept me interested to about half way and not touched it since, watched my missus play on xbox and saw the ending, omg what was going on all, why should shepard have died after all the years struggling for human survival so disgraceful of bioware. Never touch an EA game or bioware again, profit before customers, i own witcher 1+2 on pc and will be buying for me missus on xbox because i believe she will enjoy the rich storyline and enviroments...