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- Some children are born blonde and become brunette as age advances (myself included).
Ah-ah, 56236! :D Beware, you're revealing here something of your real look ;D
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04.02.2010 @ 17:10 #821
Ah-ah, 56236! :D Beware, you're revealing here something of your real look ;D
05.02.2010 @ 01:39 #822
i'm also a former blonde :D
check out SpaceMonkey and read the Witcher wiki, darnit! ET je suis capable de m'exprimer en français pour nos francophones!
05.02.2010 @ 01:57 #823
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i'm also a former blonde :D
Hey, this is starting to get scary!
It's starting to look as if being a rabid Witcher fan correlates with having had blonde hair as a child that darkened in adulthood.
*gasp* Witcher love is genetic! :teeth:
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I've made three new adventures for TW1; you can get them at corylea.com/.
I've also made a bunch of mods that fix bugs, kill annoyances or tweak gameplay; you can get those at the Witcher Nexus.
I've made three new adventures for TW1; you can get them at corylea.com/.
I've also made a bunch of mods that fix bugs, kill annoyances or tweak gameplay; you can get those at the Witcher Nexus.
05.02.2010 @ 12:53 #824
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- Some children are born blonde and become brunette as age advances (myself included).
Ah-ah, 56236! :D Beware, you're revealing here something of your real look ;D
Not really, no... if I told you that I used to constantly wear Dark Glasses (eye-injury), had my entire wardrobe painted black (teenage-hood) and enjoyed bungee stunting,
one could surmise me as an adaptation of a The Matrix char 8). But, like all things, phases come to an end and I reveal nothing current ("current" def: within the past 5 years) :D
P.S. - Believe at own risk... confirmation is ever elusive...
On Topic now...
The ending cutscene comprises mainly of Geralt getting paid and then the action sequence with the assassin.
With all the focus on the assassin & Geralt's fight, did no-one ask if it's possible to fit all Geralt deserved in that tiny sachet handed to him?
I think the price was set to 8000 Orens, taxes included. Could you really fit 8000 of those tiny gold coins in that little cloth? I doubt it... :hmmm:
05.02.2010 @ 13:43 #825
Nice try for an on topic post but... failed http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie.php?smile_ID=4786
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When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
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When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
16.02.2010 @ 09:36 #826
This might be completely off-topic, but the assassin seems abit slobby. Why would he kill the guards if he knows there's a Witcher nearby? Witchers are known for their skill in battle and a Witcher in the court of the king has most likely been contracted to kill some sort of monster or the king himself (if he is a monster). This is logical deduction even if you've only heard of Witchers.
For this to make sense, the experience for the assassin must've gone abit like this:
- Silently kill guards
- Notice Wither leaving
- Hide behind pillar, not risking combat with a Witcher, but realizing he will soon notice the dead guards
- Go for it, kill the servant and get the king before the Witcher notices.
Even then, still slobby since the assassin didn't know if the King had an audience and had more people present than his two or so guards and servant(s)
For this to make sense, the experience for the assassin must've gone abit like this:
- Silently kill guards
- Notice Wither leaving
- Hide behind pillar, not risking combat with a Witcher, but realizing he will soon notice the dead guards
- Go for it, kill the servant and get the king before the Witcher notices.
Even then, still slobby since the assassin didn't know if the King had an audience and had more people present than his two or so guards and servant(s)
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16.02.2010 @ 14:27 #827
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This might be completely off-topic, but the assassin seems abit slobby. Why would he kill the guards if he knows there's a Witcher nearby? Witchers are known for their skill in battle and a Witcher in the court of the king has most likely been contracted to kill some sort of monster or the king himself (if he is a monster). This is logical deduction even if you've only heard of Witchers.
For this to make sense, the experience for the assassin must've gone abit like this:
- Silently kill guards
- Notice Wither leaving
- Hide behind pillar, not risking combat with a Witcher, but realizing he will soon notice the dead guards
- Go for it, kill the servant and get the king before the Witcher notices.
Even then, still slobby since the assassin didn't know if the King had an audience and had more people present than his two or so guards and servant(s)
For this to make sense, the experience for the assassin must've gone abit like this:
- Silently kill guards
- Notice Wither leaving
- Hide behind pillar, not risking combat with a Witcher, but realizing he will soon notice the dead guards
- Go for it, kill the servant and get the king before the Witcher notices.
Even then, still slobby since the assassin didn't know if the King had an audience and had more people present than his two or so guards and servant(s)
Well, maybe because the killer "believe" he can trick a witcher. See his eyes at the end of the battle? Maybe it's not regular assassin, more likely a X-man or something.....I mean, if I knew I've been mutated or else, I'll give it a try to beat a witcher.......
We'll see in TW2 :peace:
17.02.2010 @ 05:32 #828
AAhh HAa ah he hEE he ohh Ho hO! And I thought MY jokes were bad...
Pages and pages...
For all those who agree that Alvin = GM (aka The Majority), your numbers are reflected by intuition. There are too many subtle hints (and several obvious ones) linking the 2 as one. Far too many to ignore. Most have been listed throughout the pages and pages herein, I have no intention of repeating them all... But I would like to mention one that may have been overlooked by some. This particular link between Alvin and GM occurs during a part of the game, I feel is extremely important to this forum, I'll get to that in a moment...
So anyway... the first link between Alvin and GM is after the girl Alvin is with in THE BEGINNING turns into a chew toy. After you slay the barghests, Alvin reveals a prophecy which entails: "the coming time of the White Frost... A time when the world will perish amidst ice and be reborn by a seed that will not sprout but burst into flames..." (eluding to the Flaming Rose!!!)
This is an obvious link to the GM, though it does not suggest they are the same person, there are plenty more hints to come that suggest they are. You can choose to ignore them if you wish...
Unfortunately... regarding the assassin at endgame cinematics... Something has been painfully ignored... Painful to me anyway, after reading so much nonsense about clones... or its a time-travelling Geralt, and blah blbahha bllbah ahbla..
What has been ignored you ask?
- - - - - - - - - - THE BEGINNING - - - - - - - - - -
THE WITCHER SECRETS AND MUTAGENS WERE STOLEN FROM KAER MORHEN! This is EPIC news! Those secrets have been guarded for centuries according to the chapter II load screen. Geralts PRIMARY mission throughout the entire game is to recover the stolen secrets and mutagens... Triss has information in chapter I after you give her... "Her Potion" about how dangerous the Witcher's secrets could be if they fell into the wrong hands... She speaks how coveted they are by so many, to which Geralt adds, "wealthy merchants, dukes, and Kings?"
And so, Geralt's quest concludes exactly as the game says... "Something ends, Something begins" Yes you retrieve the stolen items, but you fail at doing so quickly enough! Just as the GM, of the Flaming Rose, says he wanted the secrets... to make his own witchers. And just as Azar Javed, of the Salamandra had done, made his own mutants.
Did the GM succeed making his witchers? Were the GM and Azar alone in their rape of the witcher secrets? What other organizations got a peep at the coveted witcher secrets?
It matters not, only one thing is certain now... you failed witcher, you did NOT recover the secrets in time... The evidence of your failure lies before you in the mutated eyes of the assassin you just killed!
NOT THE WITCHER EYES! Witchers defend men against monsters, and have a unique fighting style... They are not assassins of men...
In the assassin eyes that reaped the mutation of witcher secrets.
So... prepare yourselves witchers...
Ha ahH Ha hA AHh HeE hE hA AHAaaA
For the next time you see the Aard and Igni signs... Will be when your new enemies use them against you!
Pages and pages...
For all those who agree that Alvin = GM (aka The Majority), your numbers are reflected by intuition. There are too many subtle hints (and several obvious ones) linking the 2 as one. Far too many to ignore. Most have been listed throughout the pages and pages herein, I have no intention of repeating them all... But I would like to mention one that may have been overlooked by some. This particular link between Alvin and GM occurs during a part of the game, I feel is extremely important to this forum, I'll get to that in a moment...
So anyway... the first link between Alvin and GM is after the girl Alvin is with in THE BEGINNING turns into a chew toy. After you slay the barghests, Alvin reveals a prophecy which entails: "the coming time of the White Frost... A time when the world will perish amidst ice and be reborn by a seed that will not sprout but burst into flames..." (eluding to the Flaming Rose!!!)
This is an obvious link to the GM, though it does not suggest they are the same person, there are plenty more hints to come that suggest they are. You can choose to ignore them if you wish...
Unfortunately... regarding the assassin at endgame cinematics... Something has been painfully ignored... Painful to me anyway, after reading so much nonsense about clones... or its a time-travelling Geralt, and blah blbahha bllbah ahbla..
What has been ignored you ask?
- - - - - - - - - - THE BEGINNING - - - - - - - - - -
THE WITCHER SECRETS AND MUTAGENS WERE STOLEN FROM KAER MORHEN! This is EPIC news! Those secrets have been guarded for centuries according to the chapter II load screen. Geralts PRIMARY mission throughout the entire game is to recover the stolen secrets and mutagens... Triss has information in chapter I after you give her... "Her Potion" about how dangerous the Witcher's secrets could be if they fell into the wrong hands... She speaks how coveted they are by so many, to which Geralt adds, "wealthy merchants, dukes, and Kings?"
And so, Geralt's quest concludes exactly as the game says... "Something ends, Something begins" Yes you retrieve the stolen items, but you fail at doing so quickly enough! Just as the GM, of the Flaming Rose, says he wanted the secrets... to make his own witchers. And just as Azar Javed, of the Salamandra had done, made his own mutants.
Did the GM succeed making his witchers? Were the GM and Azar alone in their rape of the witcher secrets? What other organizations got a peep at the coveted witcher secrets?
It matters not, only one thing is certain now... you failed witcher, you did NOT recover the secrets in time... The evidence of your failure lies before you in the mutated eyes of the assassin you just killed!
NOT THE WITCHER EYES! Witchers defend men against monsters, and have a unique fighting style... They are not assassins of men...
In the assassin eyes that reaped the mutation of witcher secrets.
So... prepare yourselves witchers...
Ha ahH Ha hA AHh HeE hE hA AHAaaA
For the next time you see the Aard and Igni signs... Will be when your new enemies use them against you!
17.02.2010 @ 16:02 #829
Another odd thing. You find scrolls from Kaer Morhen containing secret potions of the withcers on many merchants, which is only natural assuming that various layers of the Salamandra has been selling them for gold once they're done with them. The odd thing is that Geralt doesn't seem to hesitate to do the same. He's there to protect the secrets of the witchers, yet he sells the scrolls to any book seller happily :s
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17.02.2010 @ 18:13 #830
*ahem* Duskey you are right 
but I guess it needs more than a simple scroll to prepare Witcher potions.
El Destroyo, it's an interesting assumption... the stolen Witcher secrets also get into the hands of an other organisation who successfully created their supernatural warriors - the assassin which Geralts encounters in the final cinematic. Though Triss made a comment in that direction in the beginning, it doesn't convince me. It's too vague. I guess the case 'stolen Witcher secrets and resulting mutants' is finished. I guess we meet renegade Witchers in TW2 who are bribable and hired as assassins by kings.... or the renegades have an other reason to split with the Witchers.
but I guess it needs more than a simple scroll to prepare Witcher potions.El Destroyo, it's an interesting assumption... the stolen Witcher secrets also get into the hands of an other organisation who successfully created their supernatural warriors - the assassin which Geralts encounters in the final cinematic. Though Triss made a comment in that direction in the beginning, it doesn't convince me. It's too vague. I guess the case 'stolen Witcher secrets and resulting mutants' is finished. I guess we meet renegade Witchers in TW2 who are bribable and hired as assassins by kings.... or the renegades have an other reason to split with the Witchers.
I can see what you see not, Visions milky then eyes rot.
When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
18.02.2010 @ 01:11 #831
huh? Too vague?
Salamandra made mutants using witcher secrets. Order of the Flaming Rose made mutants using witcher secrets. Its fairly Black and White--
The stolen secrets of Kaer Morhen are... NO LONGER A SECRET! Seems plain to me, the word is out!
Vague can not be helped, the scarless, slightly bearded face of the two-weapon, fighting assassin is not Geralt... Saying he is... is vague as hell... I do not recognize the face in regards to any character in the game, therefore ambiguity can not be helped, when it is the face of a stranger.
But jeepers creepers, where'd he get those peepers?!?! Just playing the game pretty much explains it. Duskey seems to understand the gravity. Ever notice how expensive the witcher scrolls are among the various merchants you encounter? :o Like fresh meat from the butcher, hahaha.
Ha aAh hAa AHh ha heE eHEe eheE hee...
Thats what your get for humping your way through life witcher. For stopping to lift the skirt of every damsel in distress! Maybe you spent a few days farming the C0ckatrice Cave eh? LoL... Why even bother recovering the long guarded secrets now? When any peasant who takes a dump can read them scratched in the outhouse wall! or worse... a sorceress . . . . . .
Salamandra made mutants using witcher secrets. Order of the Flaming Rose made mutants using witcher secrets. Its fairly Black and White--
The stolen secrets of Kaer Morhen are... NO LONGER A SECRET! Seems plain to me, the word is out!
Vague can not be helped, the scarless, slightly bearded face of the two-weapon, fighting assassin is not Geralt... Saying he is... is vague as hell... I do not recognize the face in regards to any character in the game, therefore ambiguity can not be helped, when it is the face of a stranger.
But jeepers creepers, where'd he get those peepers?!?! Just playing the game pretty much explains it. Duskey seems to understand the gravity. Ever notice how expensive the witcher scrolls are among the various merchants you encounter? :o Like fresh meat from the butcher, hahaha.
Ha aAh hAa AHh ha heE eHEe eheE hee...
Thats what your get for humping your way through life witcher. For stopping to lift the skirt of every damsel in distress! Maybe you spent a few days farming the C0ckatrice Cave eh? LoL... Why even bother recovering the long guarded secrets now? When any peasant who takes a dump can read them scratched in the outhouse wall! or worse... a sorceress . . . . . .
18.02.2010 @ 16:26 #832
I still don't believe that the Witcher secrets are accessable quite easily by buying a Witcher scroll or book from a merchant or antiquarian. If it is the case why should Javed resp. the Salamandra make an effort and attack Kaer Morhen, fight the Witchers, break into the lab and steal the Witcher secrets... when they simply can buy it? Money shouldn't be a problem for them. Purchasable Witcher scrolls and books are not the same as the stolen Witcher secrets.
I can see what you see not, Visions milky then eyes rot.
When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
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18.02.2010 @ 19:52 #833
Well, I think it's not so easy brewing witchers' potions, and I think they might be letal to anyone but witchers. So maybe you could sell any scrolls (just because it's a game, and you need to collect gold) but only another witcher could take an advantage from them. Oh, it's just my opinion.......
Or simply the witcher's stolen secrets contains more recipes that we don't know. Something MUCH more powerful..... :hmmm:
Or simply the witcher's stolen secrets contains more recipes that we don't know. Something MUCH more powerful..... :hmmm:
18.02.2010 @ 20:03 #834
Yo Petra, How do you know witcher scrolls were available in merchant shops BEFORE the Kaer Morhen theft???
The scrolls are found everywhere after the theft, and why not... You sold the scrolls after reading them do you think the salamandra would not? (I agree the scrolls are only part of the problem) This excerpt from the books:
http://www.thewitche...tion/27,m4.html
talks a bit in the beginning about the curiosity of witcher potions, and confirms at the end what happens when a normal person drinks witcher potions.
2 organizations made mutants with witcher secrets after the theft. So obviously, the stolen secrets are what mattered most, perhaps the secrets are how to mutate someone that they CAN drink witcher potions and use signs? This sounds right to me, since the mutants you fight in the end carry potions on their belt!
Azar couldn't just buy them from a shop.. IT TRULY IS EPIC NEWS THAT THE WITCHER SECRETS WERE STOLEN!! Everyone wanted to get their hands on the Kaer Morhen secrets... Everyone! Hence the Main Quest! Recover the secrets... End-game cinematic spells it out though... Day late... Dollar short.
As far as witcher potions being lethal to others and all that: People can become witchers or there would be no witchers at all; yes it takes time to become a witcher
--but time is something others had... while you were busy dealing with weddings, and lost family rings, and man-eating plants in the garden, and damsels in distress, and on and on and oh... maybe you liked gambling?-- :whistle:
and there are consequences (sterile) and what not. Mainly- becoming a witcher means surviving MUTATION! Furthermore the GM says in the end it was his INTENSION to make his own witchers with Kaer Morhen secrets! You do not fight witchers in the end, but you do fight mutants! So... they partially succeeded.
Edit: Actually... you do fight a witcher in the end... now don't you! Someone DID succeed at making their own witchers! Exactly as the GM ADMITTED he wanted to do! The answers are all there... In the game... Why get crazy and add things that weren't in the game like clones or time travelling Geralts?
Wouldn't it be bomb diggity if you could rush through the game avoiding all side quests and finish at a low level only on hard mode and in a... lets say 5 day limit (impossible?) to uncover a different ending where you stop Azar and the GM before the Witcher secrets get pimped out more then all of Carmen's girls put together, and truly save the day?
Nah... that totally ruins the sequel... and I rather like the idea of fighting an enemy with witcher skills!
Hee hee, sounds like fun to me! I cut through enemies like they were butter on hard mode... Go ahead, break my heart... bring on the mutated Triss, loaded with mutagenic potions! Look what happened to Bond when he caved into love for Vesper, and gave up being an agent in Casino Royale. Its the way of the world man... havin your heart ripped out by a sexy, power hungry female...
I bet thats how Geralt lost his memory, after catching Triss with her hand in the cookie jar, she couldn't bring herself to kill him (attachments of the heart and all that) so she side-swiped his mind instead :P
And then she got that cookie!
Just a theory of course... I don't know who the assassin was working for at game's end, nor do I know who Triss was working for... My logic base is formed around what I DO know, the rest is a matter of deduction
The scrolls are found everywhere after the theft, and why not... You sold the scrolls after reading them do you think the salamandra would not? (I agree the scrolls are only part of the problem) This excerpt from the books:
http://www.thewitche...tion/27,m4.html
talks a bit in the beginning about the curiosity of witcher potions, and confirms at the end what happens when a normal person drinks witcher potions.
2 organizations made mutants with witcher secrets after the theft. So obviously, the stolen secrets are what mattered most, perhaps the secrets are how to mutate someone that they CAN drink witcher potions and use signs? This sounds right to me, since the mutants you fight in the end carry potions on their belt!
Azar couldn't just buy them from a shop.. IT TRULY IS EPIC NEWS THAT THE WITCHER SECRETS WERE STOLEN!! Everyone wanted to get their hands on the Kaer Morhen secrets... Everyone! Hence the Main Quest! Recover the secrets... End-game cinematic spells it out though... Day late... Dollar short.
As far as witcher potions being lethal to others and all that: People can become witchers or there would be no witchers at all; yes it takes time to become a witcher
--but time is something others had... while you were busy dealing with weddings, and lost family rings, and man-eating plants in the garden, and damsels in distress, and on and on and oh... maybe you liked gambling?-- :whistle:
and there are consequences (sterile) and what not. Mainly- becoming a witcher means surviving MUTATION! Furthermore the GM says in the end it was his INTENSION to make his own witchers with Kaer Morhen secrets! You do not fight witchers in the end, but you do fight mutants! So... they partially succeeded.
Edit: Actually... you do fight a witcher in the end... now don't you! Someone DID succeed at making their own witchers! Exactly as the GM ADMITTED he wanted to do! The answers are all there... In the game... Why get crazy and add things that weren't in the game like clones or time travelling Geralts?
Wouldn't it be bomb diggity if you could rush through the game avoiding all side quests and finish at a low level only on hard mode and in a... lets say 5 day limit (impossible?) to uncover a different ending where you stop Azar and the GM before the Witcher secrets get pimped out more then all of Carmen's girls put together, and truly save the day?
Nah... that totally ruins the sequel... and I rather like the idea of fighting an enemy with witcher skills!
Hee hee, sounds like fun to me! I cut through enemies like they were butter on hard mode... Go ahead, break my heart... bring on the mutated Triss, loaded with mutagenic potions! Look what happened to Bond when he caved into love for Vesper, and gave up being an agent in Casino Royale. Its the way of the world man... havin your heart ripped out by a sexy, power hungry female...
I bet thats how Geralt lost his memory, after catching Triss with her hand in the cookie jar, she couldn't bring herself to kill him (attachments of the heart and all that) so she side-swiped his mind instead :P
And then she got that cookie!
Just a theory of course... I don't know who the assassin was working for at game's end, nor do I know who Triss was working for... My logic base is formed around what I DO know, the rest is a matter of deduction
20.02.2010 @ 17:15 #835
Actually the mutation is a result of the Witchers trials and it's a long progress. Only imperishable and robust probands survive the complete sequences of trials. It also takes time to prepare secret Witcher potions. At any rate the entire progress of becoming a Witcher is far from pleasant and poeple have to sacrifice a lot. No-one would take it voluntarily. Many poeple are obsessed with power and it's easier to get in comparison to a mutantion (ultimate warrior) and they won't cede their own body. So I don't believe everyone wants to get the Witcher Secrets and undergo this painful mutation… unless they are ruthless individuals like Javed and de Aldersberg who have apparently lots of probands as instruments for experiments.
Okay, Javed and de Aldersberg have discovered a method to accelerate the progress of mutation but effectively they failed which we can read in the 'Experiment Notes'.
Okay, Javed and de Aldersberg have discovered a method to accelerate the progress of mutation but effectively they failed which we can read in the 'Experiment Notes'.
I can see what you see not, Visions milky then eyes rot.
When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be, shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind – cast down into the Halls of the Blind…
20.02.2010 @ 20:08 #836
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At any rate the entire progress of becoming a Witcher is far from pleasant and poeple have to sacrifice a lot. No-one would take it voluntarily.
The Choice: First Witcher Trial, absolutely voluntary!
http://witcher.wikia...wiki/The_Choice
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So I don't believe everyone wants to get the Witcher Secrets and undergo this painful mutation…
Obtaining the witcher secrets is an obvious goal of salamandra and the GM, as they broke into Kaer Morhen. The desire for the secrets by everyone of power can be obtained in a conversation with Triss at the end of chapter 1. Not my words... her words! Obtaining the secrets does not necessarily mean you are the one to undergo mutation. It means you are the one to recruit warriors who want to become more powerful! Or both!
The goal of having the secrets is to make mutants, mission accomplished by Kaer Morhen, Salamandra and Order of the Flaming Rose. Also blatantly admitted by the GM in conversation at endgame, that he wanted his own witchers, his words... not mine!
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Okay, Javed and de Aldersberg have discovered a method to accelerate the progress of mutation but effectively they failed which we can read in the 'Experiment Notes'.
I do not read that they failed. They succeeded in making less intelligent mutants and found places for them in their army. Their goal of intelligent witcher-like mutants had not been accomplished in any experiment notes as of yet. Does this mean that they (or someone else) did not succeed? The answer to this question is found in the endgame cinematic.
Witcher = a refined intelligent MUTANT made by Kaer Morhen, witchers are also defenders of men against monsters, with unique fighting styles.
Mutant and Greater Mutant = MUTANTS made by Salamandra's first experiments of Kaer Morhen Secrets (read all about it in your bestiary)
Mutant Assassin and Greater Brothers = MUTANTS made by Order of the Flaming Rose first experiments of Kaer Morhen Secrets (also in bestiary)
Endgame Assassin = a MUTANT made by ??? Who succeeded remains to be seen. To deny that someone obviously did succeed is up to you.
Source of all mutant creation = Kaer Morhen Secrets! Previous to this game, the secrets remained guarded from all but Kaer Morhen!
I am beginning to wonder if you prefer some of the other theories, the clone one perhaps? Time travelling Geralts? I saw that another theory is that endgame assassin is Alvin.... Or perhaps "I personally believe the assassin was Odo's dog, the only surviving life-form from The Beast's rampage of The Outskirts, who stressful encounter with this monster forced OD to acquire shape-shifting skills in simple self-defense." found here:
http://www.gamespot....6040&pid=915112
You will also find on that link others who agree that the endgame cinematic is a result of success of witcher experiments.
Or do you refute my undeniable logic because you are a fan of....
the batman... :D
By the way, if you choose to fight the frightener in chapter 1, then the Salamandra have ALREADY begun experimenting by chapter 2, in Buried Memories quest, and you must fight a mutated dog! As I said before...
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but time is something others had... while you were busy dealing with weddings, and lost family rings, and man-eating plants in the garden, and damsels in distress, and on and on and oh... maybe you liked gambling?-- :whistle:
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Thats what your get for humping your way through life witcher. For stopping to lift the skirt of every damsel in distress! Maybe you spent a few days farming the C0ckatrice Cave eh? LoL... Why even bother recovering the long guarded secrets now? When any peasant who takes a dump can read them scratched in the outhouse wall! or worse... a sorceress . . . . . .
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It matters not, only one thing is certain now... you failed witcher, you did NOT recover the secrets in time... The evidence of your failure lies before you in the mutated eyes of the assassin you just killed!
20.02.2010 @ 20:31 #837
El Destroyo, you sir are dangerously sane. A bit like the person whose face you use as your avatar ;) I personally completely agree with your analysis, efen though I do prefer the classical Joker look to the Ledger one ;) Well, either that, or one of the other witcher schools went renegade and started training assassin witchers... however we've so precious little evidence to that end, that the theory about someone succeding in replicating the mutations is more plausible at the moment.
Also, thank you very, very much for sharing this gem:
with us. It is indeed a fitting rebuttal of all the crazy theories that were floating in this thread. You just made my day sir!
I thank you for your time
Gorthuar of Mirthe
Master of Arcane Magick
Also, thank you very, very much for sharing this gem:
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"I personally believe the assassin was Odo's dog, the only surviving life-form from The Beast's rampage of The Outskirts, who stressful encounter with this monster forced OD to acquire shape-shifting skills in simple self-defense."
with us. It is indeed a fitting rebuttal of all the crazy theories that were floating in this thread. You just made my day sir!
I thank you for your time
Gorthuar of Mirthe
Master of Arcane Magick
27.02.2010 @ 16:47 #838
Has anyone else noticed that the sequal that has been anouced/leaked is called Assasins of Kings :) i believe we will get an answer to who that assasin is. Personaly i believe it is another witcher, probably from one of the other witcher schools that have been mentioned. Maybe this school went rogue and turned themselfs into an elite Assasins Guild.
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27.02.2010 @ 17:29 #839
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Has anyone else noticed that the sequal that has been anouced/leaked is called Assasins of Kings :) i believe we will get an answer to who that assasin is. Personaly i believe it is another witcher, probably from one of the other witcher schools that have been mentioned. Maybe this school went rogue and turned themselfs into an elite Assasins Guild.
Yep, we already know
27.02.2010 @ 18:55 #840
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Has anyone else noticed that the sequal that has been anouced/leaked is called Assasins of Kings :) i believe we will get an answer to who that assasin is. Personaly i believe it is another witcher, probably from one of the other witcher schools that have been mentioned. Maybe this school went rogue and turned themselfs into an elite Assasins Guild.
Yep, we already know
But we're all excited about it! It'll be nice to get the answers to some of the questions left hanging at the end of the first game!
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I've made three new adventures for TW1; you can get them at corylea.com/.
I've also made a bunch of mods that fix bugs, kill annoyances or tweak gameplay; you can get those at the Witcher Nexus.
I've made three new adventures for TW1; you can get them at corylea.com/.
I've also made a bunch of mods that fix bugs, kill annoyances or tweak gameplay; you can get those at the Witcher Nexus.
