[Kdar]

Any one know?

Or just finish doing the tower quest?

[Toke]

I guess this is a game translation difference in names, because I have NO clue who Mogila is.. Vincent, Thaler, Ramsmeat, or Kalkstein?

[MisterV]

As I understand Mogila is Ramsmeat, the bandit dude. And I really am sure he's not innocent.

[Toke]

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As I understand Mogila is Ramsmeat, the bandit dude. And I really am sure he's not innocent.

Depends how you definite "innocent" I guess  ;D If you mean innocent of aiding the Salamandra, he is. He's definitely no good-guy tho'.

[Kdar]

Yes. sorry. Ramsmeat, the bandit dude.
Well he is sure speak pretty cool :)..

So.. How can I prove that he is innocent

[Khuz]

I just got done doing that, and I don't remember what I said, but you gotta talk to him 'easy' and back off at certain points, I remember one part of the coversation was, 'Why you trying to fuck me like a whore, do I look like one?'  Course I said no and just kinda let him talk a bit.  And I ended up proving hes innocent and then approached him within his house and spelled it out for him.

[Iryan]

When I tried it the 2nd time, I was able to get that "Do you think I'm a whore?" - "No" - "Why do you try to fuck me then?" thing... But now I'm not able to get it anymore... Seems that I'm missing a trigger there...

[Theronyll]

Got the same problem.

Raymond orders me to kill him, but he's innocent and I don't want to kill him. I befriended Rammsmeat a bit too early for the chainquest to handle.......

[Killoran]

dont belive you have a choice in the matter, i cant explain without spoiling though :(

[Iryan]

You have a choice. I already did it once. I just can't remember how... I proved Ramsmeat innocent before getting the command to kill him - it works. I just can't reproduce how. Perhaps I talked to early to Ramsmeat this time...

[Killoran]

i got 2 prove him innocent but raymond after i got proff it was kahkstein (that nutty alchamist) i talked to raymond and i still had to kill ramsmeat

[Relyn]

Do the autopsy and the crypt and that should prove hes innocent.

[Theronyll]

If that's what Raymond says then suck it up, you'll have to kill Rammsmeat.

It's a nasty quest-chain bug, and the devs should be slapped for it. Slapped hard.

Vince

[janekk]

Warning SPOILER

Think about it you proved that ramsmeat is innocent and raymond still wants you to kill him? Isn't that strange? Try watching your medalion in vicinity of raymond hmm. thats strange too. Maybe he's not who he seems to be?  ;)

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Theronyll----> you dont have to kill ramsmeat there is always other way  ;) so its not a bug.
I'll give you advice : dont play this game like BG or KOTOR . Do not complete quests exacly as you are told, find a little clues that will help you justify situation and make it your way  8) .

[Theronyll]

Trust me mate, I HAD to kill Ramsmeat and it's a bug.



Raymond didn't give me any other options than to kill him.
Ramsmeat didn't give me any other options, only said "Old whores have wings, shove off.".
I found all the clues and had no more Suspect quests in my logbook.
I wasn't able to enter the cemetary because I didn't make friends with Thaler or Vincent.
I didn't get the option to "lie" that I killed Ramsmeat.
Geralt told Raymond that he suspects something about him. He mentioned his medallion, he mentioned the world map, he mentioned the whore-thing...

[Iryan]

To get the option to lie that you killed Ramsmeat, you probably must prove him innocent and get the truth from the autopsy. But I'm not sure on what it depends...

[M i k e]

It's easy to prove. After the autopsy (there shoul be note in your journal that Ramsmeat is innocent) , meet with Raymond. He will tell you to kill Ramsmeat. But you must not take this option .Say no, cause other way you will have to kill him Then go to Ramsmeat and tell him that he is not guilty.

[Iryan]

You can prove him innocent BEFORE the autopsy and before you go to the cemetary... That's what I'm searching at the moment :-)

[Ventriloquist]

You have to prove Ramsmeat innocent (I believe the crypt is crucial to this) and tell him (Ramsmeat) that, before taking the quest to kill him. After that when "Raymond" tells you to kill him, just accept and you will get the option to lie to him. If you can't get to the cemetery because you pissed of both Thaler and Vincent you will probably have to kill him. As long as it lets you progress it doesn't matter.




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All this morality about i don't want to kill Ramsmeat makes me laugh. I bet you didn't think twice about killing the old hag in Shani's house (i know i didn't);D
 

[Blackrock]

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I remember one part of the coversation was, 'Why you trying to fuck me like a whore, do I look like one?'  Course I said no and just kinda let him talk a bit.

In that part I said "Yes"  ;D I still managed to prove him innocent after the autopsy and my visit to the cemetery however.