[Frodamn]

Hi, im looking to buy a cheap but good new computer to run the witcher 2 on.

I've found this computer but im not sure how will it would run, by looking at it i can tell it would run the witcher 2 pretty well, but for once id like to play a new game on the highest of the high!

http://www.computerl...asp?systypeid=4

Thank you in advance for any response!

[Guy N'wah]

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Hi, im looking to buy a cheap but good new computer to run the witcher 2 on.

I've found this computer but im not sure how will it would run, by looking at it i can tell it would run the witcher 2 pretty well, but for once id like to play a new game on the highest of the high!

http://www.computerl...asp?systypeid=4

Thank you in advance for any response!

This is the Witcher 1 hardware forum, so the moderators might move your thread, but no problem.Thanks, moderators :)

It should run the game well, though not at highest settings. I don't know prices in NZ, other than that they're very high, so I'll take your word for it that it's a good deal. But note that it is sold without an operating system, so you're going to have to add the cost of a copy of Windows 7.

The GPU and the CPU are your weak points. I'll deal with each separately.

The GTS 450 is well above "minimum" requirements, but not up to "recommended" requirements. If you could see your way clear to a GTX 460, GTX 460 SE, or an AMD (ATI) HD 5850, 5870, or better, you would beat the "recommended" requirements, which should get you maximum settings or very close to them.

The Phenom II 555 is a dual-core CPU, but it has two additional, disabled cores. Many users have had good luck "unlocking" the disabled cores, giving you a free upgrade to a three-core or four-core CPU. Unlocking requires a motherboard that supports it; fortunately, yours does. There's no guarantee, but you stand a decent chance of unlocking and ending up with the equivalent of a quad-core 955.

If you succeed in unlocking the CPU, and you can upgrade the GPU to the next price point, you are pretty much sure of being able to max the game out. Even if you do neither, you will get very good, though probably not maximum, performance.

[Frodamn]

I really appreciate your help on this and I ask of your view on this one last computer.

I was talking with my other computer friends and after some discussion we came to a group conclusion that this PC would be best value for money for what i want it to do.

http://www.computerl...127&systypeid=4

i would add another 2gbs of DDR3 ram to it.

thanks in advance!

[Guy N'wah]

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I really appreciate your help on this and I ask of your view on this one last computer.

I was talking with my other computer friends and after some discussion we came to a group conclusion that this PC would be best value for money for what i want it to do.

http://www.computerl...127&systypeid=4

i would add another 2gbs of DDR3 ram to it.

thanks in advance!

I know it's a couple hundred more, but I like everything about it better. You wouldn't need the additional RAM. The 3-stick configurations are only useful for Socket 1366; Socket 1155 CPUs want their memory sticks in pairs.

You'll still need to buy a Windows 7 license, since it is quoted without an OS.

[Ruaridh]

You should have a look at building a computer, its not as difficult as it sounds, if you take time to research whats good, whats there and the price. You might well do get a far more equipped computer if you make it yourself as well as all the knowledge about it too.

You can find alot of tips on the internet, as well as precautions, its fairly simple, the only part i reckon is problamatic is whether you want some weird water cooler or your cables.

You do need to be careful but i would never ever buy a fully made computer now.
I built a pretty good computer, sourced most of the parts myself, i also researched the parts as well , (Guy N'wah helped me with the motherboard.)

Its up and running, cool, oddly quiet :D and i realy don't need to worry about anygame not running any lower that ultra for the next couple of years i guess. :)

[Frodamn]

I understand building a computer is generally better, trust me on that. This website though doesnt just give you prebuilt computers at ridiculously over priced prices thats why I like it. I feel more comfortable buying a pre-built one instead because i dont feel confident in building my own computer these days.

And thank you for the advice once again!

[Seeker]

if this is in CA the price is not that bad for a prebuilt

[Chauntea]

It would run it but you'd be better off building one yourself.

[Jonelo]

It seems very expensive. A PC capable of playing any current game would not have to cost much more than 1000 dollars, even with 500 or 600 might be enough.

Although good, the euro dollar parity is now very favorable to the euro and  is dificult to my  the estimate the price

I would not recommend  build  the equipment yourself, if you've never done before. I have always build  my computers, but  lately  I build  my   PCs  in the store  where I usually purchased the hardware . There are many small and medium enterprises that build  PC to  enthusiast,  where you can customize. In many of them can you choose all the components to assemble a unique and custom PC, but if you are not familiar with the hardware, the best is buy the pre-builded PC  provided by these shops to enthusiast  .  You can always ask for certain custom components.


You just have to choose a preconfigured model and customize the most important components to play. The graphics card and CPU. Select  you a enthusiast or at least , a  perfomance   CPU and graphic card  . The rest is secondary, but  you must pay attention to the cooling / noise of the system, if possible, choosing a quality sink, a graphics card that is not noisy and a pretty and silent computer case .


Example , Ibuypower , with lot of options , many pre-build configurations to enthusiast   looks very good, 

http://www.ibuypower.com/

http://www.ibuypower...Store/Special-A

http://www.ibuypower...eries.aspx#p=p1

http://www.ibuypower...ore/Mage_XLC_M1

Maingear - less options

http://www.maingear....p?idproduct=601

http://www.maingear....xcube/index.php

http://www.maingear....p?idproduct=607

Another example is Dell-Alienware

http://configure.us....nware-aurora-r3

And many more in U.S.  Maybe it is interesting that the company is in California if you live in California, a delivery  of RMA to the east coast has to be very expensive if not does the warranty cover the delivery . In Europe the distances are smaller  ;) .

Sorry for me english

[Wickedwanted]

I'm still currently building my computer. I've bought all my supplies from newegg (excellent site btw), and I've just bought my graphics card, I got the GeForce GTX 580, and all I have left to purchase is a processor and a monitor. It cost me about $2,900 bucks but once I'm finished with it I will be able to play any game out there maxed with no problems.

I'm hoping I will finish it by May 17 so I could test this game out maxed with and try to see if 3d Vision is worth the extra $180. I suggest building a computer because it's a lot cheaper, but like the other user has stated Ibuypower is also a good website.

[Guy N'wah]

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It seems very expensive. A PC capable of playing any current game would not have to cost much more than 1000 dollars, even with 500 or 600 might be enough.

The OP is in New Zealand, and the prices are in NZ$. As beautiful a country as New Zealand is, I hope to be fortunate enough never to have to pay NZ prices for computers or parts.

Yeah, US $600 might be enough. But the OP can't buy in the US.

[Jonelo]

LOL , epic  fail !!  .  I watched the change and the prices are incredible in Euros. They say that in my country, Spain, if you make a hole in the ground and keeps digging, arrives in New Zealand XD. Someone could make the hole and start a business of export of PCs.

More interesting part in  www.computerlounge

http://www.computerl...stembuilder.asp

[agc]

I hope this is okay to ask here...

Hello!  I'm a really big fan of the first Witcher RPG, one of my favorite games. I'm definitely wanting Witcher 2 but the requirements make me worry, along with the fact that there is not a demo or a benchmark until some unknown time after release.

My PC is as follows:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (2.3 GHz)
4GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 9600 GT

Obviously, my processor is the lowest of my system. However, if you can confirm that the game would run reasonably well, I will gladly throw down the money through GoG to help CD Projekt directly with my funds. I just do not have the funds at this time to upgrade and I'd hate to miss out on what looks to be a really fantastic game.

Thanks for your time,

[Guy N'wah]

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I hope this is okay to ask here...

Hello!  I'm a really big fan of the first Witcher RPG, one of my favorite games. I'm definitely wanting Witcher 2 but the requirements make me worry, along with the fact that there is not a demo or a benchmark until some unknown time after release.

My PC is as follows:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (2.3 GHz)
4GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 9600 GT

Obviously, my processor is the lowest of my system. However, if you can confirm that the game would run reasonably well, I will gladly throw down the money through GoG to help CD Projekt directly with my funds. I just do not have the funds at this time to upgrade and I'd hate to miss out on what looks to be a really fantastic game.

Thanks for your time,

It's slightly below minimum, due to the graphics card. We don't have much information on how well below-minimum systems will play the game; all we're able to do is infer that because the game is known to play fluently on systems that meet the stated minimum requirements, it should play only a little less well on systems that are slightly below minimum.

I think it's a good bet that it will be playable, but it might want some tweaking to make it play better. Since anything with an Athlon 64x2 has seen some years of use already, the biggest improvement you could make would be to run a really good defragmenter (I like MyDefrag, which used to be JkDefrag) over your disk before installing. And get a can of air and evict the dust bunnies.

[etainne]

Ok most of you have known me for years. I AM HOPPING MAD now.  (Sorry caps here and in the future)

I bought two new machines last September, knowing that the old ones would not be best for the new release.
BOTH AMD and Nvidea Can you run it   type websites say I Will NOT BE ABLE to Run the game I have waited so patiently and I am  gonna be nuts!

GRRRR its two weeks before the game release and I am really hoping that either the websites are wrong -- or that someone is already working on a fix for less than optimal systems.   AND I am still really PO'd that a brand new  WIN7 computer that  beats the pants off the specs comes out as insufficient to run this game due to a slightly underpowered graphics card.

current graphics card (because I am limited to 300W power supply) is the Radeon HD 3650.  see this post for more computer info about this machine http://tw2.thewitche...8207#msg5438207

Someone want to make any suggestions?  I would love to hear them.

[Guy N'wah]

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Ok most of you have known me for years. I AM HOPPING MAD now.  (Sorry caps here and in the future)

I bought two new machines last September, knowing that the old ones would not be best for the new release.
BOTH AMD and Nvidea Can you run it   type websites say I Will NOT BE ABLE to Run the game I have waited so patiently and I am  gonna be nuts!

GRRRR its two weeks before the game release and I am really hoping that either the websites are wrong -- or that someone is already working on a fix for less than optimal systems.   AND I am still really PO'd that a brand new  WIN7 computer that  beats the pants off the specs comes out as insufficient to run this game due to a slightly underpowered graphics card.

current graphics card (because I am limited to 300W power supply) is the ATI HD 3650. 

Someone want to make any suggestions?  I would love to hear them.

Well, first off, "can you run this game" Web sites don't know any more about your computer than Zoltan Chivay knows about runes ("I don't know shit about runes"). Don't get upset over them. All they can do is compare what they think your computer has against a number of often inaccurate and always inadequate rules.

Second, salesmen lie (actually, just tell the customer what they think the customer wants to hear). Computer salesmen are as bad as car salesmen, only your bank account takes less damage when they sell you a lemon. There is no substitute for understanding the specifications of what you are buying and how these compare to the programs you want to run, relying on your own research and on the advice of those who aren't trying to sell you something.

What specs do your new computers have? (I'm guessing that the HD 3650 is the card in your old computer.)

[etainne]

This compuiter was the best I could do with the money I had at the time and the ATI Radeon HD is in this computer -- it was the only PCIe that would work on a 300W rail. I did my own research to get that card and It was the best I could do with the limits I have.  Its a long boring story, but the finale is the electrical in this rented house limits my wattage or i will blow fuses and possibly burn the house down, which i want to avoid if possible.

I added a link to a previous post with my data -- it just doesn't have the card included, but the card is easy to look up too . The card in the old computer wasn't even PCIe it was a lesser card by far in the olden days :P

This card is DirectX 10.1 shader 4.1 vertex shader 4.1 crossfire capable 512 mb

[Lupercus]

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This compuiter was the best I could do with the money I had at the time and the ATI Radeon HD is in this computer -- it was the only PCIe that would work on a 300W rail. I did my own research to get that card and It was the best I could do with the limits I have.  Its a long boring story, but the finale is the electrical in this rented house limits my wattage or i will blow fuses and possibly burn the house down, which i want to avoid if possible.

I'd need more details on your house electrics, but if bumping your psu to 500 watts causes problems with the house electricals then I suggest you get them checked, seriously something is not right, unless you are using several electric heaters to keep warm!

[Ruaridh]

What if you were to use some kind of pertroleum generator?

Sounds a bit mad but thats what we did when we got powercuts up north.

My computer runs on oil. :D

However that stuff with the electrical systems in your house is realy not fun :(

I hope something comes your way and fixes it :)

[Guy N'wah]

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This compuiter was the best I could do with the money I had at the time and the ATI Radeon HD is in this computer -- it was the only PCIe that would work on a 300W rail. I did my own research to get that card and It was the best I could do with the limits I have.  Its a long boring story, but the finale is the electrical in this rented house limits my wattage or i will blow fuses and possibly burn the house down, which i want to avoid if possible.

I added a link to a previous post with my data -- it just doesn't have the card included, but the card is easy to look up too . The card in the old computer wasn't even PCIe it was a lesser card by far in the olden days :P

This card is DirectX 10.1 shader 4.1 crossfire capable 512 mb

Let's see what we can do for something a little closer to spec than the 3650 and a little better on actual (as opposed to manufacturers' overstated requirements) power requirements.

In ATI cards, the minimum spec is a 3850, which has 320 shaders and can do 10.7 GP/s and 10.7 GT/s (gigapixels and gigatexels per second). The 3650 has just 120 shaders and can do just 2.9 GP/s and 5.8 GT/s. It might actually be enough to run the game on minimum, since all evidence is that the game plays quite well at minimum specs, but let's try to do better.

Your 3650 draws 65W TDP (total design power). My experience with cards like this is ATI is pretty good at estimating the actual power. So let's assume we are limited to 65W TDP, and we can't squeeze an additional 10W out of your system.

Other ATI cards around 65W TDP are the 4670, 5670, and 6670 (OK, the 6670 is 66W.) These come much closer to the game's minimum requirement, but they're not going to bust your power supply. I think they reach about 90% of the minimum (the minimum works out to about 11,000 3DMark06, and I get better than 10,000 on my not-yet-tuned 5670 rig).