[slimgrin]

Just finished the game for the second time. Truly inspired story, but confusing at times. Take the king of the wild hunt. Why is he technically the last boss? What am I missing here?

And let me say while I'm fresh off my completion, this game bucks all the trends and has soul. It's not perfect, but one of the best rpg's I have played.

[*Tommy*]

I think for the 1st game from a small developer they did an OUTSTANDING job with the witcher...perfect no but what game is

My opinion on the wild hunt as last boss is this . After you deal with the GM he refreshes your memory with all the different choices you made in the game so as to try and tie it all together although everything that he tells you is just as much grey as the game was . I think it was his interpretation of your actions throughout the game and whether or not you agree with him

[Otaku]

We know (or not) from the books what is the real goal of the Wild Hunt.

he and his fellow try to regain their lost power of travel through time and dimensions. The power that Grand Master or Alvin possesses.

And I think that he tries to fool Geralt, thinking that he would be naive after his memory loss. Through the whole game there are no good or bad decisions, whatever your choices were the King of Wild Hunt will tell you they were bad. It's plain manipulation, trying to knock Geralt off balance :P

[slimgrin]

The ending of this game will forever frustrate me. I love all the grey morality and thoughtful content in The Witcher - up to the ending. The ending is where i'd like to have closure. Not a typical 'they all rode off into the sunset' type of closure mind you, but more definite closure than what we got. I can't say its a bad ending, that they dropped the ball on it. To some, I'm sure it fits perfectly. Heh, not many games make me mull the content over in my mind for days afterwards. Probably no game, actually.

Already in Vizima for my third and last playthrough, the one I'll import. I'll probably complete this one up to the last chapter in time for TW2. Right after I finish it up, I'll pop TW2 into my drive and pick up on the sequel. :)

[Corylea]

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The ending of this game will forever frustrate me. I love all the grey morality and thoughtful content in The Witcher - up to the ending. The ending is where i'd like to have closure. Not a typical 'they all rode off into the sunset' type of closure mind you, but more definite closure than what we got.

I agree.  I was furious that we weren't told who raised Geralt from the dead and why and what happened to his memory and things like that.  I eventually became reconciled to the end of the game, just because the rest of it is so very good.  But geeze, I wanted more closure.

I'm glad that we're supposed to get at least some of those answers in TW2.  I threatened to go to Poland and sit in the middle of the office until they told me, and I guess they didn't want that. :-)

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And I think that he tries to fool Geralt, thinking that he would be naive after his memory loss. Through the whole game there are no good or bad decisions, whatever your choices were the King of Wild Hunt will tell you they were bad. It's plain manipulation, trying to knock Geralt off balance :P

The King of the Wild Hunt is a lying liar who lies and lies.  Not that this upsets me or anything. :-)

[Pangaea]

I thought he was supposed to be the Grim Reaper or something like that. So at the end I went "WTF, am I supposed to fight Death itself? That can't go well...". Guess I fell for one of his lies :blush:

Not being told who resurrected Geralt didn't bother me that much actually. Maybe I got too sucked into what happened at the end and kinda forgot about the first events, when at the time I thought they would be explained along the way. I see in the TW2 FAQ thing that this will at least partially be explained, so that will be very interesting to learn.

[e-ahmet]

I wanted a closure too. I wanted to go see Shani after it was over but the game didn't let me to, I was disappointed and at the end, I got excited thinking that the Hunt would tell actually how Geralt returned from dead. Well, he didn't but it's a good cliff hanger for the sequel I think.

[Pangaea]

I was expecting to see her again too. I half-expected a wedding or something like that, or at least some kind of romantic get-together. Cheesy I guess, but there was a buildup throughout the game, so I expected something in that direction. So I brought with me roses and a pile of rings, just in case I had to give her something.

It's probably better like this though, as it serves as a great buildup to the next game, where we will get some answers to these questions. Was a second game planned from the very start btw? I suppose it had to be to have such an ending, or they would have wrapped up more loose ends.

[*Tommy*]

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It's probably better like this though, as it serves as a great buildup to the next game, where we will get some answers to these questions. Was a second game planned from the very start btw? I suppose it had to be to have such an ending, or they would have wrapped up more loose ends.

I think the devs said they started on TW2 right after TW1 was released but that they wanted to do it differently and that was why they developed the RED engine because the other engine was too constricting and they couldn`t do what they wanted.

[Pangaea]

Yes, that's true. Which must mean they had planned it out in advance story-wise. That works so much better than when developers try to string together a story for game 2 when the first one really tied up the loose ends. Can't wait for TW2 :)

[Jack in the green]

He's one the few characters from the Saga that I remain un-spoiled about... so I wouldnt want to discuss much about him/it quite frankly... some spoilers ahead...

In game, I sort of always thought that the KOTWH  was a gimmick made for you to fall for (as Jean Pierre, another almost impossible one to kill and as big a pain in the ass as the KingOTWH himself).

I kind of use to role-play thinking why would I want to kill the Horsemen of the Apocalipse, or Death? It really didnt make much sense to me to kill that thing so that Grand Masters soul wouldnt be "claimed", after all, I was going to kill the dude, what did I care...
Also, I really felt that his intervention messed one of the best situation lines of the game... when the Grand Master says "But THAT sword is for monsters..."
Now it seems  that I was fooled in some twisted way... lol

I am curious now about what that result (killing or not killing the thing) could affect your game experience in TW2... maybe I will try to kill him next time...

[Drag0ntamer]

I killed him because I do not trust him. I think he wanted the Grand Master's soul for his own personal gain to use for some unknown devious plan.

[Vilgefortze]

Uh huh.  You thought he'll use the soul for his own purpose and you killed him? And what did YOU require his soul for?

Do you really think you managed to "kill" the wild hunt? It is no common wraith. It may be defeated. But killed? You kid yourself....

[gorthuar]

But at least our friend Ere... errm.... the King didn't get the GM's soul for his own nefarious purpose that way. "Killing" him, even if the effect is but temporary, is the right thing to do.

[Vilgefortze]

I didn't give a damn about his purpose or GM's soul. He said a bunch of nasty things to me and they hurt my fragile self. So I gutted him.
That and I had a bunch of potions left over and I never walked way from a fight in the game and I wasn't about the start at the very end of it either.
...and I had a savegame just before I started the fight. So if anything went wrong......
Period.

[e-ahmet]

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I didn't give a damn about his purpose or GM's soul. He said a bunch of nasty things to me and they hurt my fragile self. So I gutted him.
That and I had a bunch of potions left over and I never walked way from a fight in the game and I wasn't about the start at the very end of it either.
...and I had a savegame just before I started the fight. So if anything went wrong......
Period.

Yeah. DEATH to the Hunt! :D

[Vilgefortze]

@"E-Ahem"
I'll re-read that section when I have the books handy. As far as I remember, you cannot really "kill" the Hunt, either by silver or magic.
So if you think you're rid of the Hunt, you're wrong. You only managed to make it mad at you. Fine by me BTW. More xp every time I kick its sorry @ss.

[e-ahmet]

No, I kind of sense he is a sound character in the saga and can't be just killed.

I've read somewhere he is an elf who has Source powers or something like that. At the same time he looks dead, I suppose he is something like Voldemort. Sorry for the poor comparison.

I was just making a supporting remark to your attitude towards that bastard.

[Vilgefortze]

Yeah. The "red cavalry" or something. I don't remember the elf's name. But wherever the hunt is seen, misfortune follows. They were not called harbingers of doom for nothing.
It is likely that even after death, they continued their hunt as they did in life. And they never actually hurt anyone, but onlookers felt compelled to follow them, not knowing why. Many were never seen again. Those that returned after ages didn't look like they had aged at all. but they seemed strangely hollow, and could never be happy.

I think the hunt's well documented in Times of Contempt. As far as I can remember Geralt discusses it twice. Once with Yennefer, and once with Dandelion. I could be wrong though.

But really, if anything wielded such power as the Hunt, I'd like to believe they cannot be killed by sword or sign.

[slimgrin]

My assumption is he can't really be killed, and that you temporarily defeated him at the end of TW1. I wasn't aware you could spare him, am I understanding people correctly?

Anyway, about the whole destiny bit - I spit in destiny's face.